N Hunter Limited - The Secret Credit Reference Agency!

[MARTIN3030]

Oops sorry JC -I see you reported on this earlier.

 

I think we should ask Diskman Dave to take a look at this place next time hes around there.....I would like to see how many different offices there are.

 

 

Actually would be an idea to find out all we can-then get a Journo to blow the lid.

Edited November 16, 2008 by MARTIN3030

[The GodMother]

Martin something tells me no one on CAG will forget when there licence runs out.

[MARTIN3030]

Hmn.....I think a fairly good assumption GM

[JonCris]

I have already cut and pasted the relevant parts of this thread to the Money Editor of The Guardian suggesting they might to like to do a follow up

[MARTIN3030]

Great JC.

 

Lets hope they do.

I was on here earlier and had reason to believe I saw someone lurking from Nottingham....home to erm..........one of the big 3.

No doubt they will be here this week checking this lot out......and in the space of 24 hours-this thread has attracted lots of interest.

[sosumi]

Martin, I often come on and read posts without logging in (often when I'm half asleep). I am in Nottingham and I'm not a 'lurker'!!

 

One of the Experian offices in Nottingham - opposite the main one, is a great big place. When I took my SAR request to the Reception in Talbot House (main office) I first went into the wrong place - the one over the road. You walk up a flight of steps to the 'reception' in that one. They had security guards 'guarding' it - struck me as odd at the time. They redirected me - but why does Experian need security guards? Particularly for an office block that isn't advertised? Their main office - the one over the road - didn't have any.

[angry cat]

IT would appear that Phones on Finance may have the same data reg no as this co.

No Worries! Loans - Take The Worry Out Of Your Secured, Unsecured ...

 

Phones on Finance Ltd trading as No Worries! Loans. Company Reg No: 05592640. Data Protection Reg No: Z9259075. Consumer Credit License No: 578817. ...

No Worries! Loans - Take The Worry Out Of Your Secured, Unsecured, and Personal Loans

 

 

Good Grief!

 

I was just doing a search on the

Financial Assurance Company Limited # 1044679 (this company was linked to NatWest/RBS)

and noted that they changed their name to G E Keynes Ltd!

 

What a tangled web they weave.

 

see post 45

 

AC

[blipvert]

I have already cut and pasted the relevant parts of this thread to the Money Editor of The Guardian suggesting they might to like to do a follow up

 

if this is an email type file, would it be worth sending it to the other papers as well, many financial journos have their work email in the papers nowadays.

[JonCris]

Lets get it straight I'm not against there being a data base to check for fraudulent applications because we all pay for fraud.

 

What I am most certainly against is not being told you have been subject to such a search because if your rejected & you know not why you won't check the Hunter database Therefore any inaccurate data will never be corrected & the longer it remains on file the more credence it will be given.

 

Also if it's intended to combat fraud why keep it a secret? Surely letting the would be fraudsters know they could well be caught by this all encompassing system is a more sensible way to fight these crime.

 

No I think the existence of this 'unpublicized' system is in line with this governments thinking. They want to know everything possible about everybody & what better way than to know all about a citizens financial dealings, data now easily available all in 1 place

[The GodMother]

I agree with you Jon.

 

I have no problems with the fraud provention but not knowing about it and all the secrecy around it makes it seem very suspicious. I also think it could been a a par of the goverment thinking. They want to bring these new ID cards in that from some reports, Not that i believe them but the goverment have not fully explained the cards, say they will do away with bus tickets and records and in the end you will have this one card which will have everything on it from how much money you have in bank to full medical records. How do we know if this agency is not already helping them do this?

[ScarletPimpernel]

New Labour - New Surveillance!

[MARTIN3030]

I am happy to report that CAGS Manchester undercover spy will be making inroads to check out the offices.

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/bear-garden/169134-equifax-again-our-data.html#post1825471

 

 

Top Man;)

[renegotiation]

One of the Experian offices in Nottingham - opposite the main one, is a great big place. When I took my S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) request to the Reception in Talbot House (main office) I first went into the wrong place - the one over the road. You walk up a flight of steps to the 'reception' in that one. They had security guards 'guarding' it - struck me as odd at the time. They redirected me - but why does Experian need security guards? Particularly for an office block that isn't advertised? Their main office - the one over the road - didn't have any.

 

Sosumi you are so naive. They are obviously just conscientiously guarding our data for us in a secret location! :lol:

 

Great thread by the way. It's another prime example of unchecked power run amok. Who knows what else we don't know about this noble 'industry'. I bet my bottom dollar that somewhere in amongst it all there are some political links.

[MARTIN3030]

Pity not a resounding result but he did try.

Their interests in other peoples activities, appears to extend to a well executed CCTV system covering their premises.CCTV stills for subject capture ?

At least on that one, SAR full disclosure isnt an issue-of course as far as we know.......

[MondeoST24]

I think we should bombard these people with subject access requests and see what turns up.

 

There is a reason they have gone out of thier way to remain a secret, lets find out why.

[Oh Boy!]

Name N HUNTER LIMITED

Number04546325

Registered Address

Trading Address 100 BARBIROLLI SQUARE

MANCHESTER

M2 3AB100 Barbirolli Square

Manchester

M2 3AB

Incorporation Date26/09/2002 Type of Accounts Small Company Filing Date of Account s08/03/2008 Company TypePrivate Ltd By Guarantee W/o Share CapDate of Latest Accounts31/12/2007 Annual Return24/10/2006 Industry: ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Name N HUNTER LIMITED

Number04546325

Name Lee Robert Bates

Address

4 Elmdon Close

Penkridge Stafford Staffordshire

ST19 5EZ Officers

TitleMrDate Of Birth12/06/1973 Date 03/12/ Name Paul Adrian King

Address 83 Orchard Grove

Bradford Yorkshire BD10 9BS Of

Date Of Birth31/07/1969 HonoursPresent Appointments1

Appointment Date28/02/2008

FunctionDirector

NameSusan Elizabeth Burgess

[/url] Address 158b Western Road

Mickleover Derby Derbyshire DE3 9GT

Officers

Title Ms Date Of Birth 16/11/1958

Honours Present Appointments1 Appointment Date 16/05/2007

FunctionDirector View Details

 

Name

Alison Jane Clair

Address

67 Lansdown Road Gloucester Gloucestershire GL1 3JD

Officers Title Ms Date Of Birth 03/04/1963

 

Name Richard Ludlow

Address 21 Capulet Grove South Shields Tyne & Wear NE34 9AH Officers

Title Mr Date Of Birth 14/09/1955 Director

 

Name A G SECRETARIAL LIMITED Address100 Barbirolli Square

Manchester M2 3AB

Officers Title Date Of Birth HonoursPresent Appointmentsmore than 200 Appointment Secretary

 

NameVictoria Gayle Wright

Address

13 Westminster Green

Handbridge Chester Cheshire CH4 7LE Officers TitleMsDate Of Birth 14/10/1969

Appointment Date13/03/2003

FunctionDirector

 

NameRichard Geoffrey Crawford

Address

20 Lulworth Crescent

Whitkirk Leeds West Yorkshire LS15 8PA Officers Title

Mr

Date Of Birth 23/08/1968 HonoursPresent Appointments1 Appointment Date16/10/2006

 

NameTracy Melanie WingroveLocate the home address of this director

Address

29 Tara Grove Baddeley Green Stoke On Trent Staffordshire ST2 7QL

Officers

Title

Ms

Date Of Birth12/06/1963

Honours

Present Appointments1 Appointment Date 26/09/2002 FunctionDirector

 

Name Maria Dragicevic

Address33 Hollyshaw Lane Leeds West Yorkshire LS15 7BA

Officers Title

Ms

Date Of Birth 16/05/1964

Honours

Present Appointments 3

Appointment Date 08/12/2003

 

Name Andrew Christopher Townsend Address

6 De Havilland DriveIndividual report for this director

Hazlemere High Wycombe Buckinghamshire

Officers

Mr

Date Of Birth

07/02/1963 Honours

Present Appointments 15 Appointment Date26/07/2007

 

Name N HUNTER LIMITEDNumber04546325 Todays Rating [ 0-100 ]89

 

Todays Limit [£] 24,500

 

DateRating Description 20/02/200989

Very Good Credit Worthiness

26/03/200881Very Good Credit Worthiness

13/05/200679Very Good Credit Worthiness

17/06/200473Very Good Credit Worthiness

24/03/200453Good Credit Worthiness Rating -

Accounts Filed / EstablishedDescription

71-100Very Good Creditworthiness

51-70Good Creditworthiness

30-50Creditworthy

0-29Caution - Credit at your discretion

 

Liquidated/Wound-upCompany is liquidated or is wound-up

DissolvedCompany is dissolved

19/12/2008

New Board Member Mr L.r. Bates Appointed26/03/2008New Board Member Mr P.a. King Appointed17/03/2008

New Accounts Filed13/11/2007

Allen Swift Has Left The Board23/08/2007

New Board Member (andrew Townsend) Appointed03/04/2007

New Accounts Filed07/06/2006Jon Buxton Has Left The Board07/06/2006

New Board Member (alison Janeclair) Appointed01/06/2006

New Accounts Filed28/11/2005

New Board Member (richard Ludlow) Appointed04/11/2005

New Board Member (allen Jamesswift) Appointed02/11/2005

New Board Member (jon Buxton) Appointed11/10/2005Ian Mcgee Has Left The Board04/08/2005Graham Rymer Has Left The Board10/05/2005New Accounts Filed

Edited March 2, 2009 by Oh Boy!

[andymanx]

Has anyone had their SAR fulfilled? If so, did it show anything up?

[militantconsumer]

I'm gonna SAR them. I've never heard of these people and find it disgusting that financial institutions have potentially passed my details onto them.

 

How do we know there aren't any other secret organisations like this that they are checking with? How can my contract with my bank be so vague? I am always hearing about the 3 credit referencing agencies, but not N Hunter Limited.

 

Right, before I fire my letter off and line their pockets even more deeply, can anybody explain to me why they are entitled to a fee of £10 instead of only £2?

[fuzzybobble]

CPR is better for gettingfull info a company holds on you. Best of all it's free and they have to comply a lot faster than 40 days.

 

It also makes them wonder what you're up to as the template letter implies you're preparing doucments for a court claim.

[militantconsumer]

CPR is better for gettingfull info a company holds on you. Best of all it's free and they have to comply a lot faster than 40 days.

 

It also makes them wonder what you're up to as the template letter implies you're preparing doucments for a court claim.

 

What template?

[fuzzybobble]

What template?

 

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/legal-issues/173201-why-you-shouldnt-use.html

 

There's a template you can modify to suit on this thread.

 

I posted the whole thead as it also contains some very useful information egarding CCA requests and new workarounds for the usual DCA excuses for not providing them.

[militantconsumer]

I think you got the wrong end of the stick.

 

That is very specifically for getting a copy of the original signed credit agreement from original creditors and DCAs.

 

In that situation, you say your case is that you think the CCA is improperly executed and you are intend to apply to the court for a declaration of the rights of the parties. Or you are challenging their right to charge you PPI. Or whatever. And so you demand the agreement under CPR 31.16.

 

With N Hunter it is just a normal SAR - like you send to the normal credit reference agencies.

 

If I fire a CPR 31.16 off to them then they are going to (quite rightly) want to know what court action I am planning to bring against them. If I don't tell them they will ignore my request. If I then file the N244 they will seek costs against my due to unreasonable behaviour.

[gazmeistergeneral]

Hi all,

 

interesting indeed!! so do DCA's (the cabots of this world) have the power or indeed access to Hunter for the purpose of debt collection?? is that how these so called tracing companys operate?

 

anyone get their SAR back yet?

 

Gaz

[andymanx]

Has anyone had their SAR fulfilled? If so, did it show anything up?

Anyone?

[militantconsumer]

I contacted my bank (Alliance & Leicester) and found they do not use N Hunter Limted.

 

But there are a few other names, so I set this new thread up here:

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/credit-reference-agencies/197936-just-how-many-secret.html