Should we trust Sunak or the next PM to fix the Country's problems? (title revised 24/10/22)

[unclebulgaria67]

Confused! Yesterday said "I am a fighter and not a quitter"

 

Tories need someone from the One Nation side of the party, and I think the best option they have is Tom Tugenhat.  

 

The good news is that the right wing of the Tory party is unlikely to be in control of their party.

 

 

 

[tobyjugg2]

23 minutes ago, unclebulgaria67 said:

Confused! Yesterday said "I am a fighter and not a quitter"

 

Either she actually said 'I'm a fraud, a failure and a quitter', or it was just another lie followed by another about turn

 

 

23 minutes ago, unclebulgaria67 said:

 

Tories need someone from the One Nation side of the party, and I think the best option they have is Tom Tugenhat.  

 

The good news is that the right wing of the Tory party is unlikely to be in control of their party.

 

 

 

As the next PM is to be chosen by the PPP (Parliamentary Populist Party (who are demonstrably easily herded)  which is largely in the thrall of the ERG, and will be chosen by even fewer people than last time ..

what makes you think that Unc?

Edited October 20, 2022 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

Johnson expected to run in leadership farce

[honeybee13]

If Paul Dacre can't become a Lord because of an enquiry, how can Johnson be re-elected? The privileges committee don't start work until next month on the partygate enquiry.

[tobyjugg2]

 

We supposedly live in a democracy,

Yet the Tories are again electing a new head, with neither person or policies having a mandate voted on by the electorate

Why do they not go to the electorate in our democracy?

Because they know they will be voted out.

 

They perhaps think that Johnson has a better excuse than any other to NOT go to the electorate

 

Many of them may also think that if Johnson does get it and go to the country, they wont lose so bad, and may not lose at all

and both the party and Johnson will see that as a win

Edited October 20, 2022 by tobyjugg2

[honeybee13]

The lettuce has been crowned the winner.

 

Iceberg lettuce in blond wig outlasts Liz Truss | Liz Truss | The Guardian

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Supermarket salad is crowned winner of bizarre competition that attracted global media attention

 

[tobyjugg2]

 

 

Edited October 20, 2022 by tobyjugg2

[honeybee13]

I didn't realise they'd rehabilitated Lord Archer. Good explanation from him.

[tobyjugg2]

I think Mordaunt has got to be front runner, but I know little about the poop partys current states of mindlessness

 

Not that I think any are fit, none.

 

Hunt has made Sunak redundant, bonkers as that sounds, and Sunak is apparently hated by the Johnson side

- Mordaunt isn't

Edited October 20, 2022 by tobyjugg2

[unclebulgaria67]

Ricky Gervais for PM.  Get him a safe seat.  At least it would be funny.

 

 

[tobyjugg2]

Nope

 

and only just about as 'funny' as Johnson

Edited October 20, 2022 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

The job of PM and chancellor is not a game of pass the £Billion Tory parcel

and No 10 and 11 are not a taxpayer funded £multi-million a week Tory “Airbnb”

 

Rachel Reeves reworded

[unclebulgaria67]

Is Truss the most costly employee in world history ?

 

Interest costs on UK debt pile soars to new record £7.7bn in September https://mol.im/a/11339451 via https://dailym.ai/android

[tobyjugg2]

and she gets a 110k+ annuity at the expense of the UK taxpayer for her couple of weeks trashing the UK economy

 

Wonder if she will also have a pink list to send to the lords?

 

So by time - probably even beats the epic PPE and VIPals farces

 

 

Something for her to do with her taxpayer funded free time. I dont thing the talk circuit will want to hear her

 

 

Edited October 21, 2022 by tobyjugg2

[honeybee13]

Is that the £115k allowance for office and staff expenses due to being an ex-PM? That isn't paid in advance and anything claimed has to be justified.

 

She also gets a pension which seems to be based on half her earnings at the time she leaves office, AIUI.

 

Keir Starmer doesn't think she should claim allowances like that for such a short time in the job and I agree with him.

Edited October 21, 2022 by honeybee13
Amount added.

[unclebulgaria67]

Hoping we don't need the Boris thread again !

 

The lies, falsehoods and misrepresentations of Boris Johnson and his government.

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Lies told by Boris Johnson and his government.

 

[honeybee13]

So do I. Good work by Peter Oborne though, in case people have forgotten what went on.

[tobyjugg2]

‘No one’ oversees ballot when party members pick new prime minister, Tories admit

The outlet is seeking a judicial review of the Tory election process, after successfully enrolling a pet tortoise named Archie, two foreign nationals and Margaret Thatcher – under her maiden name Margaret Roberts – as members, able to vote.

 

‘No one’ oversees ballot when party members pick new prime minister, Tories admit

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Senior official conceded ‘there’s no independent oversight’ – to news outlet that enrolled Archie, a pet tortoise, to vote in last race

 

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[honeybee13]

Last time I heard, the bookies had Johnson as favourite. Gilt yields are going up so the markets aren't happy.

[tobyjugg2]

Bank of England bond stockpile incurs first loss for UK public finances

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The Bank of England's stockpile of government bonds has incurred the first loss for the public finances since the central bank launched its...

 

[tobyjugg2]

Rewards for trashing the UK economy

 

Truss WILL draw up resignation honours list

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The UK's shortest-serving prime minister could choose to reward senior donors with knighthoods and peerages.

 

 

and india deal opens up UK to child sweat shop labour products (a Tory dream come true)

 

India trade deal ‘would open UK to goods produced by child labour and slavery’

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Britain’s TUC and Indian unions alike have raised concerns about deteriorating work conditions for workers, low pay and exploitation

 

 

 

and on Boris' return

 

Moody's cuts UK outlook to 'negative' over political turmoil

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Ratings agency Moody's on Friday lowered the United Kingdom's outlook to "negative" from "stable" over ongoing political turmoil, weaker growth...

 

Investors sell UK bonds as new race for PM job raises risks

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Investors sold British government bonds on Friday as they faced uncertainty about what the to become the next UK prime minister could...

 

 

 

 

 

[honeybee13]

What a tale of woe, TJ.

 

I really don't think she should have an honours list but there doesn't seem to be a way to stop it if someone is determined to trample over convention.

[tobyjugg2]

There should be no honors list from a resigned PM - end of, or any of the special PM gratuities

They have resigned for a reason ..

 

and Hunts plans hitting the little people as Tories do - while the rich get richer - just not as quickly as the Tories would have liked.

 

UK's Hunt to propose 'stealth' income tax rise to fill 40 bln pound fiscal hole-FT

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UK Chancellor Jeremy Hunt is set to propose a stealth rise in income tax after the next elections to fill a fiscal hole of 40 billion pounds ($45.21...

 

[honeybee13]

So he's going to do everything necessary to balance the books except tax the people who can afford it?

 

That's more decaying hospitals and more people living in poverty or near it.

[unclebulgaria67]

Wonder if Tory party members include many who don't really care about public opinion and would not have been worried by the concerns raised about Truss ?

 

This parody video from 2 months ago is one of many found online, where they predicted accurately some of the issues.