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This thread is to discuss the RSPCA, and it's apparent changes of direction. I was asked to post this here as the RSPCA and it's police style uniform, and it's access to the PNC and data given willingly maybe in breach of data protection to it by police, along with an apparent propensity to persecute and prosecute children and vulnerable adults was brought up on the bailiff forum in connection with bailiff ANPR and police.

 

Check these two links for some evidence against RSPCA:

 

 

http://www.grumpyoldsod.com/rspca%20again%20again.asp

 

http://www.grumpyoldsod.com/rspca%20again.asp

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Around 1970, I applied to join the RSPCA - the chap who interviewed me, (in full police style uniform) gave me the impression that they were invested with powers of entry and arrest !!

 

I didnt accept the position on offer because I didnt think I could stomach seeing abused animals.

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RSPCA only intention is to make itself a profit. If it cared about the welfare of animals so much, then it would seek to put an end to Halal meat as well as the many animal laboratories conducting needless pointless tests on animals which are nothing other than extreme cruelty.

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Some 3,443 animals were “euthanased” in 2011 by the RSPCA despite there being no medical reason for the procedure.

 

If i was a stray dog i would not want their "help"

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Some 3,443 animals were “euthanased” in 2011 by the RSPCA despite there being no medical reason for the procedure.

 

If i was a stray dog i would not want their "help"

 

They would probably want to euthanise pet owners as well if they could

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Some 3,443 animals were “euthanased” in 2011 by the RSPCA despite there being no medical reason for the procedure.

 

If i was a stray dog i would not want their "help"

 

You mean murdered.

I have always found the RSPCA methods distasteful. I have only ever called them twice, once because of a German Shepherd that was so thin it looked like a whippet and another time because someone was keeping a goat in a garage. The goat is no longer there , possibly in a curry. They did nothing on either occasion. Well they did visit the dog but left it there. I do not believe the dog was been deliberately mistreated but it was being starved.

 

If I had money to gie I would give it to the Dogs Trust , in fact we used to sponsor two dogs

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I worked as a volunteer at the RSPCA for a couple of months a few years ago, in the cat houses. I wasn't particularly impressed with what I saw.

 

While I was there, they removed 20 or more cats from their owner and they nearly all had FIV [cat AIDS]. Any cat that came in with that was put to sleep, but I understand that Cats Protection for example rehome such cats with a caveat. Another beautiful cat who had been offered a home was also put to sleep when the bloods came back with FIV. This nice family could well have looked after him properly and he could have lived.

 

They also euthanased any baby squirrels because they said they were vermin. I know at least one other animal charity that hand feeds them.

 

I didn't particularly like their way of weaning kittens by separating them from their mums overnight, even if there was only one kitten, but I don't know if that is normal or not.

 

And I remember that the donated tins or tubs of food given by people like me, who wanted a cat to have a special meal instead of dry food, were kept for the ill cats which would have had different food anyway, but it saved money.

 

Where I was there was absolutely no appreciation shown to volunteers who usually gave the whole of thier day and helped with cleaning out pens and disinfecting them when cats left. People might think that you join to cuddle and socialise cats and kittens, but it wasn't like that where I was because there didn't seem to be enough permanent staff.

 

Whilst I was there but on a day I wasn't working, a lady volunteer was pulled over by a dog she was walking and was bleeding on her face from her injuries. At the tea break, I was told that the permanent staff completely ignored her and left her bleeding while she drank her tea.

 

It certainly made me think.

 

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RSPCA only intention is to make itself a profit. If it cared about the welfare of animals so much, then it would seek to put an end to Halal meat as well as the many animal laboratories conducting needless pointless tests on animals which are nothing other than extreme cruelty.

 

 

Couldn't agree with you more. Why do we have such stringent rules on slaughter in this country but allow Halal meat? if you live in this country ALL should abide by one law? Totally agree also about laboratories.

 

Thease links disgust me, I have never been a lover of R***A (reading links I have to put that or risk being sued). I donate always have but to sanctuaries, they really need the money and are in it for their love of animals....END off!

 

I am shocked! angry and saddened their behavior needs stopping. I could go on about this all night......the thing that has always made me dislike them, they put animals down! I think it's 14 days correct me if I'm wrong? if they were animal lovers they would save as many as they could. 40 -50 thousand animals destroyed each year? WHY!!!! they would rather spend more wages, false titles, board meetings, litigating the wrong people ect ect anything but spending the money on the animals.

 

The article from the links they raised a baby fawn, took back in to the wild, then realized it would not survive and shot it!!!!! says it all along with their 6 weeks training. There is no training.....you've got it or you've not. It's a natural thing. You love animals and want to care for them. They make me sick.....literally!

 

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As a vegan, I believe all slaughter of animals is totally wrong unless the animal is in terminal pain.

 

Quoted from RSPCA website in relation to Halal meat:

The RSPCA believes that consumers have the right to choose whether or not they wish to buy meat from animals slaughtered without

pre-stunning.

To kill an animal by cutting its throat is a most horrific death. The animal is not stupid, the animal can feel the utmost pain and is probably aware that death will soon come.

RSPCA believes that consumers have the right to choose whether the meat (dead animal) they are going to eat has been killed with probably very little or whether the animal has been killed in the utmost pain with a cut to its neck.

 

The RSPCA state:

“It is depressing to see no sign of an end to this upward trend in the number of scientific procedures being carried out using animals, at a time when the validity of animal experiments and the quality of the science is being criticised as never before. Given the serious doubts about many aspects of animal research and testing, you have to question just how much of this research is really necessary. How many thousands of these animals have lived, suffered and died for no real benefit?”

 

So, RSPCA are fully aware of the criticisms concerning animal experiments (basically criticisms say the experiments are useless). RSPCA is also aware that more and more experiments are being carried out. Yet the RSPCA has as far as I know done nothing to prevent this endless cruelty!

 

If Joe Bloggs cut his cat / dog throat with a knife, RSPCA would prosecute... Why?? Money!

If Joe Bloggs forced fed his cat / dog with lethal chemicals, RSPCA would prosecute... Why?? Money!

 

Perhaps there is a hidden reason as to why the RSPCA fails to prosecute people or companies who slaughter animals by cutting their throat and fail to prosecute animal testing laboratories since they are big businesses.

 

There is a rumour of a foreign prince paying £5,000,000.00 to the RSPCA for allowing Halal slaughter, though this has not been proved.

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I find it rather worrying that firstly.no one mentions kosher meat when the pre stunning argument is made. Did you know that the vast majority of halal meat is pre stunned prior to slaughter. It is some of the racist press that lwad us to believe that is not so.

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I find it rather worrying that people believe that stunning the animal is more acceptable than that of no stunning! In either case, the animal is simply being murdered.

 

How long does the stun last? 5 seconds? 10? Perhaps if the animal is "lucky" enough, then the stun will last for 20 or 30 seconds...

How long does it take the animal to die from having its throat slit? A lot more time than the stun will last for.

 

RSPCA believes consumers have a right to know whether their dead animal food has been pre stunned before its death or not. Something which is completely irrelevant since the total time that the animal is stunned is far less time than the animal takes to die.

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WHen a 'charity' pays their CEO around 100k a year plus benefits, you know theres something not quite right. RSPCA in this country have turned into PETA. Basically worthless, full of lies and only do things when it can get them more publicity, therefore more donations, therefore more money for the idiots at the top.

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I find it rather worrying that people believe that stunning the animal is more acceptable than that of no stunning! In either case, the animal is simply being murdered.

 

How long does the stun last? 5 seconds? 10? Perhaps if the animal is "lucky" enough, then the stun will last for 20 or 30 seconds...

How long does it take the animal to die from having its throat slit? A lot more time than the stun will last for.

 

RSPCA believes consumers have a right to know whether their dead animal food has been pre stunned before its death or not. Something which is completely irrelevant since the total time that the animal is stunned is far less time than the animal takes to die.

 

You have your beliefs on meat as food and that is fine. the point I was making was from a previous post because as soon as people start talking about the killing of animals they automatically pick on halal in the mistaken belief that it is done without any stunning. My question was two fold, if this is a worry why does no one mention kosher meat . This is part of the anti muslim agenda in some of the media . Some could say it was part of the global Jewish conspiracy

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WHen a 'charity' pays their CEO around 100k a year plus benefits, you know theres something not quite right. RSPCA in this country have turned into PETA. Basically worthless, full of lies and only do things when it can get them more publicity, therefore more donations, therefore more money for the idiots at the top.

 

I think that is slightly unfair as most of the "top" charities pay their chief execs over 100K so to single out RSPCA does not give a balanced view. I would agree however that some of these salaries are unjustifiable

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I'd just like to add something about FIV cats. If you find a stray please take him or her to an animal home which will rehome FIV cats. I live close to an RSPCA centre and they will automatically euthanize (kill!!) any cats with FIV. I'm not a million miles from the wonderful Mayhew Animal Home in North London and have taken five stray cats there, three of whom had FIV. Two have been re-homed and the third whom I took in last month with pretty nasty wounds has been cleaned up and is now up for adoption. Just look at Felix on their site! He is the most gorgeous boy and I would have kept him if he hadn't had HIV and there could be a danger of him passing this on to my cats or others in the street.

 

They are also keen to "euthanize" any older cats. I went to the RSPCA clinic with a friend whose cat had a chronic condition and they wanted to put her to sleep. She lived a good life for another 18 months!

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Can't bare the RSPCA. They posted on their Facebook a while ago asking for volunteers to "share the load". I said @how about asking your 300k a year ceo to drop some of his salary and actually pay people. You know, to share the load". I was blocked within a minute, speaks for itself.

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On the way out to work this morning I caught the tail end of an RSPCA program my wife was watching. Some RSPCA "officer" was giving a summary of a recent incident and mentioned that they had to be both care workers and police officers. Should please Thames Valley Police I thought, they can do with the help.

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I used to live near a lake. Swans, geese and ducks would frequently get injured or tangled in fishing wire, and people would come to us to report it assuming we're something to do with the park / lake. My dad made a small pen to rescue the animals while the RSPCA came to take them away.

 

They rarely bothered to come out and take the birds out of the 15 years we lived there, they really didn't seem to care much about them at all.

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