Retail stealing primark

[Hannah_18]

Hi there, 

 

I need advice on what to do. 
I went into primark and stole a pair of £1 nickers, a £10 top and £3 shorts as I had no clothes to change into due to myself having an accident, I know it’s extremely stupid of me to do so but one was in desperate need of help and change of clothes,

 

I know stealing isn’t the way and I totally regret but I needed to help myself in desperate need, I felt I had no other choice in such short time. I’ve never stolen in my life and of course I got caught on camera, the security men pulled me into a small room and told me to hand over the goods, which I did.

 

Nothing was damaged, everything was in perfect condition, so they had no loss incurred… they said they are reporting me to civil recovery specialists and RLP will be in contact with me on how to pay for for costs incurred. 
 

RLP wrote to me saying the outstanding amount payable is £165.00 which is a fixed contribution to all of the losses, things like, the time spent by staff in observing, apprehending, interviewing, and undertaking all necessary internal and external proceedings thereafter. This doesnot include any amount for the property or cash as these were fully recovered. 
 

they go on to saying this is a civil claim and is separate from any criminal proceedings or police actions. Under civil procedure rule 1998 The court has power to impose sanctions on any party who fails to comply with the practice direction. 
 

I can’t afford to pay £165 … and b.coz all items were handed back in perfect conditions why is it I have to pay £165 when theoretically nothing was  permanently  taken… I’m absolutely gutted. 
Can I just ignore the letter or ? 
 

I don’t know what to do.. any advice would be much appreciated. 
 

thank you 

[Andyorch]

Welcome to the forum.

 

I have moved your topic to the appropriate forum please continue to post here. Help will be along shortly.

 

Andy

[Homer67]

I don't believe RLP have any right to demand money from you and they certainly can't issue you a fine.

 

I'm sure someone will be along to advise who has superior knowledge but don't waste time worrying about this, you made a mistake, that's all.

 

Hover your mouse over RLP and click the link that comes up, read some of the examples, RLP have no right to claim this money.

[dx100uk]

5 hours ago, Hannah_18 said:

Can I just ignore the letter

 

yes 

end off the discussion.

ignore everything totally

 

dx

 

[mantis shrimp]

others on this forum will advise about how to avoid payment. 

 

But do you think that security staff and other measures against shoplifting cost nothing? 

[honeybee13]

I could have misremembered this but I thought the Oxford court case brought by A Retailer from memory said that the cost of security guards are factored into prices.

 

Also, if someone pays RLP, not much of the money finds its way to the retailer.

 

HB

[Hannah_18]

9 hours ago, Andyorch said:

Welcome to the forum.

 

I have moved your topic to the appropriate forum please continue to post here. Help will be along shortly.

 

Andy

Thank you Andy. Shall await replies. 
much  appreciated. 

[mantis shrimp]

You may be right, hb. But in any event shoplifting has a cost beyond the price of the goods. 

[dx100uk]

ignore them

 

100's of like threads here

none have gone anywhere near court since 2012.

 

dx

 

[mantis shrimp]

 

The Judgment in the Oxford case: https://google.info/forums/filedata/fetch?id=1181447. Read to the end. 

Edited May 30, 2022 by mantis shrimp

[Hannah_18]

Hi there, the link isn’t working. I’ve tried copying and pasting a few times now and it’s coming up as error page not found.. 

 

any of them help for the link would be great as I’m interested in reading what it is you have tired to send. 

 

thank you 

Edited May 31, 2022 by dx100uk
unnecessary previous post quote removed

[mantis shrimp]

ApprovedJudgment.pdf

[Bazooka Boo]

Don't worry about the link Hannah, it is simply confirming what DX said, ignore RLP, there is no identifiable loss, they received the goods you took, they (RLP) can't claim £165.

[Hannah_18]

Thank you for your message. 
 

If I simply ignore all letters, is it possible they could get a debt Collector to call at my home, or possible issue a court summons?

 

I’m just wondering if anything like this can effect my credit rating…

 

after reading a few things I understand that RLP are nothing more than a scam, as I’ve not signed any contract with them.

 

they are a third party acting unlawfully without my consent.

Which is also personal data breach so I’ve read.

 

BUT have also read they follow through due to them always wanting the upper hand, so they push further and don’t leave you alone.

 

But then again how can they even prove it was me personally.. I could have lost my ID card and someone else could have used it to forward details pretending to be me. 

Edited May 31, 2022 by dx100uk
unnecessary previous post quote removed

[mantis shrimp]

but you did not lose your passport or driving licence, did you? 

 

Have you read the judgment that I uploaded for you? When you receive a letter, reply that you are aware of that case, so they may as well stop wasting your time and theirs. 

Edited May 31, 2022 by mantis shrimp
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[Hannah_18]

 

Just to add - ..

after I was caught on CCTV, and taken into a room to hand back the goods.

 

. about three hours after the situation happened, because I felt so bad about what I did… I managed to collect money and I did return to primark offering to pay for the goods as I wanted to undo my mistake as I’ve never done such a thing before As I didn’t want karma coming back on me with force.

 

I was told to leave and never come back and that RLP will deal with my case.  

 

Just putting that out there.

 

I’m not a bad person.

 

Just a stupid stupid mistake.  

 

1 hour ago, mantis shrimp said:

but you did not lose your passport or driving licence, did you? 

 

Have you read the judgment that I uploaded for you. 

 

No I didn’t, but I’m just saying - they don’t know that do they.

 

So realistically they have no idea who lives at this house unless I confirm it.

 

Anyone can fill in details of a fake address.  

Edited May 31, 2022 by dx100uk
unnecessary previous post quote removed

[mantis shrimp]

Can I suggest that you keep your eye on the ball. 

 

(And did you say they have you on CCTV?) 

[Hannah_18]

Yes I did manage to read the judgment thankyou

 

Yes and thank you for sending it. I will have to read it a few times to understand it fully as I have learning difficulties. Takes a few reads to absorb information. 
 

thank you 

 

Yes of course.
and yes I’m on CCTV.

 

So I understand that’s idiotic what I said before.

Edited May 31, 2022 by dx100uk
unnecessary previous post quote removed

[dx100uk]

There is no way they will spend hours scanning CCTV 

 

Forget it 

 

Move on 

 

Only the retailer can do anything and they are not interested in a silly member of Joe public for which they lost nothing .

 

Be very careful of people making pointless posts and simply panicking people on every thread they post on 

Just to score browny points .....

 

Ignore.

Rewash 

Ignore again Hannah 

 

Dx

 

 

 

 

[dx100uk]

1 hour ago, Hannah_18 said:

If I simply ignore all letters, is it possible they could get a debt Collector to call at my home, or possible issue a court summons?

 

a debt collector is NOT A BAILIFF 

and have

ZERO powers on ANY debt no matter what it's type.

 

1 hour ago, Hannah_18 said:

I’m just wondering if anything like this can effect my credit rating…

 

it cant no, its not a debt .

 

dx

[Hannah_18]

I’ve learnt that they are breaching the General Data Protection Regulation 2018 ..

 

surly they can be sued for holding my data without my consent, also If letters continue it would be classed as harassment?.

 

Should I go after them for this breach of data they are storing on me without my consent, and complain to the ICO? 

[Bazooka Boo]

I'd be inclined to not poke the bear, we all know what they get up to, and they will continue for as long as they are able before legislation tells them to pipe down.

[dx100uk]

just TYPE 

no need to KEEP HITTING QUOTE PLEASE!!

 

they are not storing your data without your consent.

 

you stole something.

you cant now take the high ground.

 

where ever you are reading about GDPR and RLP/DWF is twaddle.

 

stick to CAG.

stick to simply ignoring them.

 

 

 

 

[Hannah_18]

Okey, will take everything on board.
Thanks everyone for taking your time to reply. 
honestly much appreciated.
 

sorry for hitting the quote, didn’t realise there was a reply bar, so many adverts on here it’s pushed the reply bar to the bottom of the page. 
 

thanks again 
 

 

[mantis shrimp]

good luck