CWD - PAP Letter re old UAE debt now claim form

[Hornsey62]

Whilst I am converting the witness statements to a PDF

 

This is the letter received today

 

 

Letter Document 2019.pdf

[dx100uk]

but ofcourse the defendant didn't question jurisdiction......

just because , as with most of the other cases, it wasn't defended properly if at all.

doesn't mean it sets any legal precedence...

[Hornsey62]

No I know

 

You'd think they could find a better and more relevant case they were awarded judgement on.

[Hornsey62]

Witness statement

Witness statement.pdf

[Hornsey62]

Regarding the letter received today 

They have asked that I withdraw my application and pay their costs.

 

Is this usual?

[Andyorch]

Unusual...unless your trying to get a foreign agreement through English Courts/law and smacks of desperation ...you cant withdraw an application without the court permission ...and why would you want to withdraw it anyway...if it fails it fails and if they succeed the claim proceeds.

 

And which costs ?.....a typed up witness statement ?

[Hornsey62]

My thoughts exactly and I know nothing apart from what I've learned on cag.

 

I don't want to withdraw but what if I did. Are they saying that the claim would still go ahead??

 

They don't make that clear?

[renegadeimp]

Theyre going to progress as far as they can, no matter what you do. Theyre calling your bluff

[Andyorch]

19 minutes ago, Hornsey62 said:

My thoughts exactly and I know nothing apart from what I've learned on cag.

 

I don't want to withdraw but what if I did. Are they saying that the claim would still go ahead??

 

They don't make that clear?

 

CPR 11 makes it clear...

 

7) If on an application under this rule the court does not make a declaration –

(a) the acknowledgment of service shall cease to have effect;

(b) the defendant may file a further acknowledgment of service within 14 days or such other period as the court may direct; and

(c) the court shall give directions as to the filing and service of the defence in a claim under Part 7 or the filing of evidence in a claim under Part 8 in the event that a further acknowledgment of service is filed.

[Hornsey62]

Sorry Andy I keep reading but I don't understand. Do I have to do anything else?

 

 

[Hornsey62]

21 minutes ago, renegadeimp said:

Theyre going to progress as far as they can, no matter what you do. Theyre calling your bluff

Yes that's what I believe

 

If they had a good case would they be contacting me? 

[Andyorch]

8 minutes ago, Hornsey62 said:

Sorry Andy I keep reading but I don't understand. Do I have to do anything else?

 

 

Erm no.......Only the court can determine

 

6 minutes ago, Hornsey62 said:

Yes that's what I believe

 

If they had a good case would they be contacting me? 

 

Precisely....... 

[Hornsey62]

That's what I thought. 

 

I don't know if you've had a chance to look at the WS from them if not no worries.

 

Broach it tomorrow.

[dx100uk]

Their 15 i find quite funny

They admit its a waste of time and theyll never get their moneyback..anyway

 

Also they state at the start they are represent ing the defendant..then go on to say claimant..truth is..they haven't a clue as usual what they are doing but hope by bringing the kitchen sink to..the judge will feel sorry for their clients losing all that money to you.....i think most are now wise to UAE....regarding more matters than this mere speculative claim

[Andyorch]

17 minutes ago, Hornsey62 said:

That's what I thought. 

 

I don't know if you've had a chance to look at the WS from them if not no worries.

 

Broach it tomorrow.

 

Yep  dragged it out to 3 mins...very scant on detail/legislation re Jurisdiction.......non conveniens ...take another read of my post #109 ....learn it off by heart

[Hornsey62]

Thank you dx it's obviously a typo but a bad one for them! I would never had noticed that.

 

I really want to be in court with them. I want to show them up for what they are and I hope I can.

 

Thanks so much

 

 

 

 

[Hornsey62]

21 minutes ago, Andyorch said:

 

Yep  dragged it out to 3 mins...very scant on detail/legislation re Jurisdiction.......non conveniens ...take another read of my post #109 ....learn it off by heart

 

Yes noted Andy going to focus on that now.

 

Thanks

[SquaddyP]

I’ve had the exact same documents through the post 

[fkofilee]

Ive had a thought about this - Ive read Andy's #109 post and It just dawned on me - What if CWD broach the fact that E&W is appropriate to have the case here because the OP will not be returning to UAE?

 

Side note - Isnt being in debt a criminal offence in the UAE?

[Hornsey62]

1 hour ago, SquaddyP said:

I’ve had the exact same documents through the post 

 

WS and same letter?

[SquaddyP]

Yes WS and letter 

Exact same 

[Hornsey62]

Fkofilee 

 

I'm worried about that but if I were to return to the UAE I'm likely to be stopped at the airport and detained because yes it is a criminal offence.

 

So how could I return without fear of being arrested?

 

I have been abused by debt collectors in Dubai here in the uk..so much so I had to disconnect my landline. 

 

They contacted all my friends on social media saying I was in debt in Dubai. (Very embarrassing )

 

I hope that I can speak about this. None of it would be allowed in the UK so why should it be heard in a court here?

[Hornsey62]

Squaddy

 

Maybe this is what they do to frighten and intimidate people.

 

Not sure how a judge would see it.

[Versus]

On ‎07‎/‎03‎/‎2019 at 22:14, dx100uk said:

oh my are they really saying that..what twits...

 

Are not CWD close to being what is termed as vociferous litigants?

 

for example : I know of several current cases which they are involved in that are dependent upon the views of an expert witness?

That has to be paid for?

 

You would think that responsible solicitors would be awaiting outcomes before proceeding with other actions? 

 

They really are a bunch o debt chasers with no moral or legal compass.

 

Following this with interest. If I can add any intel from my own dealings i shall do so. 

[Hornsey62]

I couldn't agree with you more.

 

From what I've learnt about them it's all about the money.

 

They only take on cases where there could be a shed load for them.

 

Peter Coyle and the solicitor that wrote my witness statement are directors of IDRWW debt collectors.

 

Says it all.