Millennium Parking Services in Swansea - got a charge notice! help

[dayzie]

Hi All

 

I received Parking Notice from Millennium Parking Services in Swansea On 17/01/14.

 

 

I was parked outside derelict Pilkington Glass factory (private land).

 

 

There are signs displayed on the wall but friend I was with said it was ok to park there at night, clearly not so.

 

 

I was going to ignore the notice but seems that is no longer the correct way to go

 

 

. Advice please?

[silverfox1961]

Hi and welcome to CAG

 

Firstly, was this a windscreen ticket or a letter in the post?

[dayzie]

Hi

This was windsreen notice.

[silverfox1961]

Do nothing for now. wait for the Notice to Keeper to arrive when you can then appeal to them and when they reject you (as they surely will) they must then give you a POPLA code to take it further. A bit of a faff but it is worth it.

 

In the meantime, were there other buildings on the site that were not derelict? Try and find out who is the landowner (if possible) Take photos of the signs (again, if possible)

 

If there were no other businesses using the site what authority do the PPC have in issuing tickets.

[ericsbrother]

this wil be a fairly easy one to defeat at POPLA but you have to go through a few hoops first. The notice to keeper MUST arrive between 29 and 56 days after the date of the event and that letter must contain some basic information such as the the place and time of the event, the cause of teh breach and indentify who the contractwas made with, ie the parking company and include an address for that entity, not just a PO box number or email address etc. So, sit tight and wait for theta letter, this wastes a few quid for the parking co and some of them dont even bother sending out NTK's as they assume that people will ignore them so no revenue stream.

[dayzie]

Hi

Thanks for your replies. Will wait for Notice to Keeper as advised. Friend who told me it was ok to park in this derelict building says sometimes there is a man there who charges £2 for parking during the day. My notice was issued at 8.30pm. Sounds fishy.

[armadillo71]

And they call it a Penalty Charge Notice on their website...

 

http://mill-group.com/pay/

[Dublindel]

They also describe the penalty charge as REVENUE

[Dazzle74]

What was the outcome of this ticket dayzie. I have just had one myself at 8.30pm

[dayzie]

Hi

I completely ignored the ticket and never heard a word from Millenium Parking. I was parked at the old Pilkington Glass building next to Sainsbury's Swansea.

[Dazzle74]

Same place as me, I think im gonna just leave it. Not sure who the land belongs to as pilkington has moved out?? Thanks

[ericsbrother]

you just wait and if they send an ntk between 29 and 56 days after the date of the event tell us what it says.

[Dazzle74]

I have just recieved the fine through the post for £150.00 from PCS. Date of parking fine was issued 25.08.2015 @ 8.32pm

 

The creditor: Millenium door and event security Ltd

 

Regards

 

Darren

[honeybee13]

Hello there.

 

Does it really use words like 'fine' and creditor?

 

HB

[Dazzle74]

Please see the attached document. Please let me know if it appears?

 

[ATTACH=CONFIG]60193[/ATTACH]

[ericsbrother]

Dazzle, that letter is not PoFA compliant so no keeper liability. They say they have accessed the DVLA database on behlaf of the creditor. Complain to the DVLA that these bandits are accesing your data and have no reason to do so as they freely admit they are not the creditor. I think they are doing it because the other bandits cant so with a bit ofluck they will be barred from using the KADOE system as well. It will taek more than 1 complaint but 1 is a start.

[silverfox1961]

Dazzle74

I have just unapproved the letter as (on the right of the page) you have left lots of identifying data there.

Their reference number

Parking Charge notice number.

Registration Number

 

Please delete and repost

[Dazzle74]

Do I have grounds not to pay this fine?

I will contact the DVLA tomorrow

Could you advise me on the next process tho? will i need to contact the company?

Your help and assistance is very much appreciated!

Regards

Darren

[Dazzle74]

Happy to delete and repost. How do i do that?

[ericsbrother]

Dazzle, you dont need to do anything at this stage as regarding contacting this or any other company. let them waste their money contacting you and if the quality of what they have done so far is anything to go by it will all blow over.

Debt collection agencies are just employed to write letters and make threats when they have no right to actually do anything more serious. As the dca is just paid to do this they have no interest in the matter so cant do anything themselves.

[Dazzle74]

Not on the NTK it uses the correct language

[cheesedoff]

Hi, any advice please, I have also received a parking charge notice from same, any help appreciated.

 

 

 

 

Thank you in advance.

[honeybee13]

Hello cheesed off. You'd be better off starting a new thread of your own rather than posting on an old one.

 

Congratulations on your first post.

 

HB

[cheesedoff]

Honeybee it says I have to do 10 posts before I can add a link to show the parking notice is this correct ?

 

many thanks

[honeybee13]

For a link it's 10 posts. You can upload a document using our guide. Click on upload in my post and there should be a hyperlink.

 

HB