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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

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Hey, yeah i've been shifted off regulated investments to work these cases.

 

I'd be more than happy to help people who are unsure of procedure or what happens when we get your complaint.

 

I did speak to a nice lady today who was happy, which was nice :D

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Oh and by the way what do you thing of that revolting pink fluffy think that seems to popup all over this forum. I've taken to wearing dark glasses!

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Well I have just read this thread from the beginning, and would like to add my comments, especially about the banks having people 'over a barrell' when it comes to wages, benefits etc paid directly into an account, and then taking 'their share' before even considering the hardship they may heap upon people.

I agree with you, about the abusive customers, and I agree that it is frustrating, when you have to sit there and take it (I used to work for BT on 150 customer service, so I know that it is an unenviable position), but if you read a few of the threads on this forum, you can get a rough idea as to why so many people feel angry.

Like most members on here, I welcome views from bank employees it at least gives us an insight as to what the banks are doing to deal with these claims, and indeed, hopefully one day a bank member will start a thread with the true cost of administration....

Abbey - Prelim sent 17th May £2560.00 + £191.44

LBA sent 1st June

Claim Filed 27th June 3349.90 Inc Interest + Costs

Court Papers Served 3rd July

Claim Acknowledged 10th July

50% Offered 27th July

Settled Out Of Court 1st August £3080.45

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Its all pink and fluffy now:):):) and nik I hope you dont make the same mistake by having a dig and the Pinkies again you know you wont win:);)

DONT FORGET TO DONATE TO THIS SITE WHEN YOU WIN THANKYOU

If you dont it wont be here:x

 

Let battle commence!!!!!:mad:

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Its all pink and fluffy now:-):-):-) and nik I hope you dont make the same mistake by having a dig and the Pinkies again you know you wont win:-):wink:

 

God no! I never want to be fluffified again. It was Awfull!!!!!

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I thought we had moved on from these arguements.

 

We welcome some constructive posts from Bws that are in the spirit of our objectives and aims.

Some of these have been forthcoming........lets hope that continues.

 

 

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Heres a question i havent heard before and was just wondering if anyone knew the answer. If the banks now know they are charging too much as per the ruling (not to profit), then why are they still charging these fees, If they thought they were perfectly legal before this ruling then they now know they arent so they are knowingly breaking the law and whats happening, dont get me wrong getting your money back is great but shouldnt someone (chief exec,etc) be hauled over the coals for the continued flouting of this ruling, that id pay to see.

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Unless it has an effect on profits, No. Almost all, because I haven't read them all, have stated that it is insignificant in domestic litigation. The ball is rolling but until it is an avalanche, things will not change.

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I guess if they change now they'd be admitting liability for the 5billion plus they have already taken. If the floodgates are opened I imagine future charges will go down, but they sure as hell won't want to do that - think thats why were still winning

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Dare I say that yes I too am a BW....and I am afraid that I did not read the rules and seek permission first so hope that I am still allowed onto the forum.

 

I think oneofthem, obviously got off on the wrong footing having read this thread from start to finish! I think she may have been brain washed!!:o

 

However, being a member of branch management I understand fully all of your opinions and sympathise with them. I'm not perfect, yes I've had a charge or two aswell and yes it is bloody infuriating! On the other hand working at the frontline and having to deal with constant abuse from customers, which incidently is getting worse, is demoralising and challenging to say the least.

 

I do genuinely believe that banks (I hope the others but def my emp's) are starting to listen to their customers and believe that charging policies are being reviewed at the moment. Our unions are also looking into this as a matter of supporting its members as a result of so many concerns being voiced over increasing incidents of violence and abuse from customers as a direct result of unfair charges.

 

I hope to help wherever possible, but live in hope that policies do change soon to help all parties involved....customers and staff!:-)

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Who do you work for, just out of interest? I do agree with you on the abuse thing and I have started to understand a lot more of the why since my first visit to this site. Good to see another BW here to help.

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out of total curiosity baileyboo, considering your position, do you think if you were to were to leave the bank (hyperthetically) you would pursue the charges you paid?!! (If this has been asked before, i reserve the right to cite "new to all this"!)

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I very rarely come into this part of this website regarding bankworkers unless something from another thread brings me in this direction. I have to say the more and more i read of the Bank Workers coming in here and giving us there side of the views on unlawful charges, whether they agree or not, is a nice change. I do believe more and more people should be sent into this direction a bit more especially the new users to hear the side from some nice bankworkers who are right that they don't and shouldn't get abuse from us who are trying to claim our money back and i think that if more people were directed into this section to read stating that they should read the bankworkers view that after doing so might stop a lot of users from this forum actually being nasty when they ring or go to the banks.

 

I suppose what some of us have to realise when we do talk to the bankworkers in the banks who are not sympathetic is to just politey thank them for their views(we know we are right) and just smile and walk away.

 

When i went to LLoydstsb branch firstly i came across a worker who was adamant that i would not get my money back and i was stupid for even trying(he genuiely believed this) i said trust me i will get it back. The second time i went into the bank i got a different person who was very nice and tried all she could to stop some charges being applied cause she believed them to be unlawful aswell, but was stopped from applying them cause it was not my main branch and had to contact them who inturn said no they wont authorise it even though she knew the story as to why they wanted refunded but they wouldnt listen to her and overruled her and said tell him to contact the dept that actually deal with it now if i wanted to stop some from being applied. She couldnt believe the attitude of another co-worker but she did her best for me.

 

Anyway Morale of my story lol Is do you think anyone can maybe put this on the front page to ask users to have a read if they wish of these bankworkers who do try and gives us some sound advice and will maybe understand more after reading some of these threads to be more polite.

If you find this info useful please click on the scales in the bottom left corner of the thread :wink:

 

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Baileyboo81.........could you please pm a moderator just to let them know who you are.

 

Site rules

 

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In answer to a couple of your replies.... not sure about the trying to recoup the bank charges myself.....perhaps its me being institutionalised! Or that I may have been brainwashed too slightly. I was charged recently for my own stupid fault! I Normally go online and transfer and thought I'd be clever and set up a standing order to save me going online. I actually FORGOT that I'd done this and still transferred online and then the standingorder also tried to go out....doh!

 

Regards to which bank natweststaffmember, I would appreciate keeping my annonymity and would not feel comfortable saying which one...sorry!;-)

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ppauls150- I know the attitude of the first worker vey well. I would say that I was of the same view a few months ago. I am a curious bod and the MSE website brought me here and like the converion of Saul on the road to Amaus(if you know your biblical stuff) my eyes were opened to, what i felt, was a betrayal of what I had been trained to do. I still do follow the party line but I know that I have to be as helpful as possible to help people who want to get their charges back. Oneofthem has yet to fully open her eyes but they may be getting wider which is good.

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hope that helps

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Oneofthem has yet to fully open her eyes but they may be getting wider which is good.
LOL very nicely put. ;)

 

Also any mods able to say how many bank workers are currently registered or active within a certain period on here now? would be nice to know. :D

If you find this info useful please click on the scales in the bottom left corner of the thread :wink:

 

Vodafone To Remove Default Notices thread

Paid In Full HSBC Was Claiming £3851.42 But Instead of Paying Me Decided to pay my £4900 Loan OffDG Solictors. Need Help

Concluded Lloyds TSB 27/05/2006 Action Against LloydsTSB

Concluded Lloyds TSB for Girlfriend. 27/05/2006

Paid In Full Capital One £160 Settled

Paid In Full Capital One Sent 15/05/06 for £1372 for Girlfriend

Paid In Full Cetelem £130 Settled

Paid In Full The AA £400 Settled

Paid In Full First National £160 Settled

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FWIW

 

The abuse of anyone is wrong I accept, but in my defence, yes i have been really angry when trying to deal with banks, the system is often setup to prevent the customer actually receiving any satisfaction or resolution.

 

In years gone by i could walk into my branch, make an appointment to see my bank manager, after a couple of vists he/she even made the effort to make small talk, and discuss problems or needs.

 

Sadly the facility for the customer to get a decision has been removed by and large from the bank and displaced to somewhere in india in the case of abbey i believe.

 

It has nothing to do with the call centre being wherever it is only that you cannot get anything other than an standard response.

 

When you have problems which need to be discussed, writing in and getting a response in several weeks time is of little use.

 

In summary abuse is wrong, but in the case of the abbey their system encourages frustration and anger, at least it did in me.

 

I now bank with NatWest and have found them a lot better, mind you i dont owe them any money right now!!

 

Peace and love to all,

 

Glenn

Kick the shAbbey Habit

 

Where were you? Next time please

 

 

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