Anybody come across LDK Security?

[pip7890]

By way of update from my last post, I too received a letter from Roxburghe Debt Collectors today which was dated 24 July 2009. Interestingly enough it was addressed to me at my new address - which I don't move to until Saturday. I had notified DVLA a couple of weeks ago of my impending move and received a new V5 last weekend.

 

I shall keep you posted. For the moment though I intend doing absolutely nothing. I'm quite happy to see this go to court as I have lots of photographic evidence to support my contention that I did not breach the advertised terms and conditions.

 

Cheers.

 

PiPx

[lamma]

no court.

[bestpossibletaste]

I have ignored the parking fine up to now and not heard a thing.

 

I did take picures of the site which was very poorly marked. i noticed that new and more signs have been put up since my ticket.

 

my 14 days is up on sat 1st aug 2009.

 

i will keep you posted.

[lamma]

the PPCs read this forum.

[LupoAlberto]

Hi all!

 

I am joining the group today!

I was issued with a parking charge from LDK in a location where I have parked for the last 2 years and there have never previously been any signs in situ. In fact, when I parked on this morning there was no sign either but by the time I returned to my car in the afternoon, a sign had appeared out of nowhere! A ticket was attached to my windscreen asking me to pay a fine within 14 days (£60) otherwise increasing to £140 in the following 14 days. Thereafter it would be passed over to the debt collection etc.

I am furious about a charge which is issued after the erection of a sign. And after reading this site I do not intend to pay the charge to what appears to be a bogus company. I had already prepared a letter of appeal but wonder whether it would be any use sending it at all! I think I might be making my way down to the local police station instead! Any other way in which I can help to bring this company down, just let me know as I am all up for it!

[crem]

1 waste if time lodging an appeal as you may already have figured out

2 waste of time going to see the police as they are not interested

3 not sure how anyone is going to bring them down, but suggestions are always welcome here.

4 recomend you go with the standard tactics of ignoring, then ignore some more.

[bestpossibletaste]

The company must be under pressure or realising it is issuing tickets it has no chance of getting to court with.

 

yesterday they errected several new signs around the car park were i was ticketed.

 

i took pictures previous to this. so can prove there was no signs ( not that it matters)

 

if i was the previos poster i would check CCTV and request a copy if it shows were your car was.

putting up signs and then ticketing is a massive no no and the comany should be ashamed

 

i hope they do look at these forums

 

you ain't getting a penny out of me see you in court if you have the balls to loose.

 

and i will happily help and advise others too.

[lussica]

I wouldn't even bother to bait your breath. Just continue to ignore them entirely.

 

what was the outcome? did they proceed with court action?

[letshelp]

what was the outcome? did they proceed with court action?

I would bet very strongly they did not, and that the letters have probably fizzled out by now.

regards

[bestpossibletaste]

i never even got a letter, still have car ect registered with me for over 5 years so very easy to find.

not a think

 

fight it all the way

 

1 point i would say if you have a ticket that you could use if they tried to go to court would be to log a complaint via there web site using a email address you have, (old MSN ect)

they reply automaticly with a ressponce saying the fine will not go up

good point if your worried like i was.

don't pay though

 

i never gave any details and had nothing

 

for every one who doesn't 10 will

and they will make there money that way

[lussica]

Surprise surprise - got the first letter from Graham White today - 28/05/09 dated 21/05/09 giving me 7 days which is up - yes- today !!!. The Graham White letter was dated 2 days before the 7 day Roxurghe gave me to pay was up !! Do these people not know how to count from 1 to 7 ? Anyway still ignoring them. Out of curiousity I parked at the same time today in 1 of the two disabled baysand when i returned to my car there were 5 cars with "parking notices" on them. Hope they all read this site.

 

Hi what was the final outcome? Did the letters just stop?

[Guest lipupfatty]

are the signs at team valley blue by any chance

[angfal]

I was issued with a parking fine for £60 in early December 2009. I was visiting a resident in Middlesbrough who's parking bays are monitored by LDK Security. I am a Support Worker who works in the community and was visiting a very vulnerable young lady who had recently moved into the flat from and was new to Middlesbrough, she was also Asian and spoke little english. I parked in the bay outside her flat for 10 minutes whilst I helped deliver an item of furniture to her 3rd floor flat which we had been to collect from a charity shop, I had no alternative place to park due to the design/build of the flats. When I came back to my car I had a parking fine stuck to my window, a neighbour informed me the person who issued the ticket had left a minute earlier, I looked all over the surrounding flats and roads to find the parking attendant but could not locate her/him and this was only a minute after being issued with the ticket. I wrote an appeal to LDK Security explaining my valid reason for being parked in this area was to support a vulnerable young asian lady and deliver furniture to her home, I also explained I worked for a Charity who strive to provide a safer community for women and children fleeing domestic abuse, LDK were not empathic what so ever and replied with a standard letter but refusing to cancel the Parking Fine stating that signs are displayed in the area of the Flats and by parking there I had entered into their contract knowingly facing a fine. As I can't expect the Charity I work for to pay the fine I will have to pay out of my own pocket which seems so unfair as my reason for being at the place was to support a resident. I haven't yet paid the fine but have now received a letter to say the fine will increase to £90 if not paid within 7 days. Should I pay? I am prepared to go to court and have witnesses who can confirm my reason for parking but I dont want the fine to increase any further. Please could anyone who has been in a similar situation give me any advice?

[DBC]

For a start is is not a fine, only the police and councils can issue them. What you have is an invoice which you can ignore. Do not contact the company and ignore any correspondence you receive from them. You have not broken the law and you have done nothing wrong. For reassurance please read similar threads on here that deal with private parking companies.

[crem]

You've already given them too much credit as been a reasonable company who would take the particular circumstances into account. Now that you know better, you should return to the normal action for dealing with PPCs;

 

Do not write to them

Do not telephone them

Do not reply to their mail

Do not pay them

[angfal]

Thank you Crem and above for your reassurance, though, I am still feeling very stressed about this matter. I will look out for other similar threads and follow your advice.

[angfal]

I have now received a letter at my works address as I had used company lettered paper. LDK are now threatening Bailifs but surely the Bailifs couldnt take any action at my works address as my car is not registered at this address.

A man called Jo has requested I call him and even left a mobile number aswell as a 08000 number. Should I contact him or contiue to ignore any correspondance as I am quite happy to go to court to fight my case but I dont want to give any personal details.

[DBC]

I have now received a letter at my works address as I had used company lettered paper. LDK are now threatening Bailifs but surely the Bailifs couldnt take any action at my works address as my car is not registered at this address.

A man called Jo has requested I call him and even left a mobile number aswell as a 08000 number. Should I contact him or contiue to ignore any correspondance as I am quite happy to go to court to fight my case but I dont want to give any personal details.

 

They are not "bailiffs" they are debt collectors.Don't confuse the two. A debt collector is just a private citizen with no special powers. They cannot enter property, they cannot seize goods and they cannot blacken your credit record. Bailiffs ( who are officers of the court) only come into play if the case goes to court (very unlikely) you lose (very, very unlikely) and you refuse to pay what ever the judge orders.

 

So just ignore them and don't contact them.

[letshelp]

I have now received a letter at my works address as I had used company lettered paper.

 

Ignore it.

 

LDK are now threatening Bailifs but surely the Bailifs couldnt take any action at my works address as my car is not registered at this address.

 

Ignore it.

 

A man called Jo has requested I call him and even left a mobile number aswell as a 08000 number. Should I contact him or contiue to ignore any correspondance

 

Ignore it/him

 

as I am quite happy to go to court to fight my case but I dont want to give any personal details.

 

You wont go to court and by ignoring them you wont give any personal details.

 

So basically the advice is to ignore.

regards

[Sheffield Thursday]

This is very interesting. My son received a Civil Parking Charge Notice from Roxburghe for £140 on 14 Jan. The letter relates to an alleged offence in October 2009. He knows nothing about any parking fine until this letter. Nothing has ever been attached to his car. The car park he uses daily for work if a piece of waste ground to be built on shortly. There are

[Sheffield Thursday]

This is very interesting. My son received a Civil Parking Charge Notice from Roxburghe for £140 on 14 Jan. The letter relates to an alleged offence in October 2009. He knows nothing about any parking fine until this letter. Nothing has ever been attached to his car. The car park he uses daily for work if a piece of waste ground to be built on shortly. There are no marked bays, and the ticket machine has been out of order on some days. When it was, he put a note in the windscreen. He can't rememeber 3 months on, if the 5 October was one of those days. He wrote to LDK asking for an explanation, and got a 3 line letter saying it's nothing to do with them it's in the hands of the debt collector (Roxburghe). The letter was on dodgy looking headed paper, and wasn't signed. He rang Roxburghe who offered no explanation as to why it was £140 on the first letter, and just said he had to pay but the amount would be frozen pending the dispute outcome. They said they had photographic evidence and would send it on to him. He has heard nothing since.

Everyone on the forum appears to say ignore it's a [problem]. That's fine but the thing that worries me here is that he never had the notice as alleged. What's to say they put a ticket on took a photograph then took the notice off ? Any thoughts.....should he ignore and hope it goes away?Cheers

[crem]

Any thoughts.....should he ignore and hope it goes away?Cheers

 

Yep he should ignore. It's not just a hope that it goes away, it's a well trusted successful method on this forum for 99% of posters.

[letshelp]

This is very interesting. My son received a Civil Parking Charge Notice from Roxburghe for £140 on 14 Jan. The letter relates to an alleged offence

 

It is not an offence, don't get confused with real tickets issued by people with real authority.

 

in October 2009. He knows nothing about any parking fine

 

It is not a fine either. Only lawful authorities can issue fines not mickey mouse private companies.

 

until this letter. Nothing has ever been attached to his car. The car park he uses daily for work if a piece of waste ground to be built on shortly. There are no marked bays, and the ticket machine has been out of order on some days. When it was, he put a note in the windscreen. He can't rememeber 3 months on, if the 5 October was one of those days. He wrote to LDK asking for an explanation, and got a 3 line letter saying it's nothing to do with them it's in the hands of the debt collector (Roxburghe).

 

Ah a debt collector, a person with absolutely no powers or authority whatsoever, the worse they can do is send a letter in scary red ink.

 

The letter was on dodgy looking headed paper, and wasn't signed. He rang Roxburghe who offered no explanation as to why it was £140 on the first letter, and just said he had to pay but the amount would be frozen pending the dispute outcome.

 

I think you are beginning to realise now that any appeal or even contact with these clowns is a waste of your time and money, you are giving them the credibility they crave.

 

They said they had photographic evidence and would send it on to him.

 

And this photograph is evidence of what exactly, I'll tell you naff all.

 

He has heard nothing since.

Everyone on the forum appears to say ignore it's a [problem]. That's fine but the thing that worries me here is that he never had the notice as alleged.

 

So what? a ppc tells lies that's nothing new to people on this forum.

 

What's to say they put a ticket on took a photograph then took the notice off ?

 

What if they did? Why even worry about it? You are falling for the [problem].

Any thoughts.....should he ignore and hope it goes away?

 

Hope has nothing to do with it, completely ignore them. You will get more free toilet paper with escaling levels of threats then they will give up and go away. Only mugs pay.

 

Cheers

regards

[daveydavey22]

Hi guys, this is a query I have posted on a local forum today but feel is better suited here.

 

Please help, I can afford the £60 fine but cannot at all afford to be taken to court or pay the higher rates so really hoping for some clear, honest advice. I don't want to take any risks

 

 

 

 

 

Hi, i'm aware that these sort of threads recieve alot of attention so i'm hoping over the course of the weekend i'll be able to get some advice.

 

Tonight i've recieved a £60 fine rising to £90 after 14 days and £140 after 28 days "to cover administrative costs".

 

Anyway...the place I parked was double yellow lines (the back of Newgate Shopping Centre, Newcastle). I've parked there for 3.5 years whilst working nights.

 

I know that it's double yellow, and would have no complaints if the council had issued the fine. But the LDK group have issued it and whilst they have signs up inside the Newgate delivery area and have signs for parking bays (there's a block of flats round the back) there are no signs adjacent to the double yellows and as far as I can tell the road is just a public highway and not at all something which could be privatised to a group like LDK.

 

To make it clear, I know I am in the wrong. But what gives the LDK group the right to charge people for parking on public highway double yellow lines? It's like a private group walking along St.Mary's way issuing fines?

 

 

To cap it all off, just three months ago Newcastle council gave warning letters to cars parked in the exact spot. No fine, just a warning.

 

Surely this area is out of LDK's control. So I do plan to appeal the fine, but would like to hear of any success stories and the best way to go about it.

 

Having been on the consumer sites the most common advice is to not appeal, not pay and not write. They suggest they haven't got access to DVLA data-base?

 

Many thanks

 

Read more: http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=471015#ixzz0e41AEXkH

 

 

 

 

Am I really OK ignoring this? BTW I have e-mailed Newcastle Council for their view.

 

Really good work guys, thanks for any replies.

[DBC]

You are correct, just ignore.

 

As for those yellow lines, as they presumably on private ground, they have no basis in law. So you have done nothing illegal.