Council Tax - Application for a Liability Order & Request For Information Notice

[JohnBishop]

Hi All,

Some time ago I have received this in the post from HM Courts & Tribunal Service.

The story goes I was late with the council tax and they sent me an email reminder to pay today or the payment plan will end and I will have to pay the whole bill.
And I did pay it by the end of the day.
But 2 days later they issued a "FINAL NOTICE" letter anyway.
After that they didn't sent any more letters and I continued paying the tax but after 2 months they applied for a Liability Order.

 

Since the sale of the property by the landlord can take longer I am not moving yet.

Before the hearing I have called up the council to ask for an arrangement that they previously suggested and they agreed to spit my payments with £110 on top of that.

I have not been paid for 2 months in a row that was my justification.

Today I got a letter confirming the arrangement but they also ask for a bunch of information using "COUNCIL TAX REQUEST FOR INFORMATION NOTICE Regulation 36 of Statutory Instrument 1992 No. 613"
bla bla bla punishable BY A FINE OF UP TO £1000"

I don't feel I want to supply these private information to them (Employer, NIN. I can only send bank statements to show I have not been paid for 2 months and that my balance is near ZERO.
They don't ask for any statements. It looks like they just build my files for their bailiffs to use in the future e.g. to chase my employer instead.

If I don't supply this information it says they cancel the arrangement.
Please advise.

 

[dx100uk]

have you been served with a ‘reminder notice’ to pay a council tax bill

 

 

Debt Respite Scheme (Breathing Space) guidance for creditors - GOV.UK

WWW.GOV.UK

 

[JohnBishop]

They sent reminders before they issued a final notice.

But I always paid within the specified time of the reminder including the last time when the email said I have to pay by EOD (which I did) but they issued a final notice two days later anyway because I was late (I think they mean late in general) for the 3rd time.

[dx100uk]

just type no need to hit quote.

 

then they are entitled to go for an LO you've been warned enough, 

 

i would try the above it might well stall them.

 

bit i cant see any harm in providing what info you have.

 

when are you going to get paid...within 60days and back pay? too

why have you no income?

 

 

 

 

[JohnBishop]

I know but why do they need the details of my employer?

Are they going to help my employer to get the money from the bank who keeps it on hold for two months?

This looks like the start of bank bail-in to me.

 

I am not comfortable giving them this information, they just create my files for the bailiffs.

 

In other cases they ask for bank statements to prove hardship.

Isn't paying them + £110 penalty enough?

 

Do you mean to go for Breathing Space?

But I don't see council tax being on the list just credit cards, mortgage, rent and utility bills.

 

Besides I still don't understand the last reminder from council. The asked me to pay the monthly amount "today" what I did.

Quote

Your instalment is due on the 1st. Please pay £xxx.00 today or the payment plan will end and you will have to pay the whole bill £ xxx.00

 

I paid it but they issued a final notice anyway.

I don't get it.

What paying me on that day changed? Nothing.

 

I think they didn't even check and assumed I am not going to pay by EOD so they issued a final notice.

Then can this fact invalidate their whole charade?

[dx100uk]

1 hour ago, dx100uk said:

have you been served with a ‘reminder notice’ to pay a council tax bill

 

 

Debt Respite Scheme (Breathing Space) guidance for creditors - GOV.UK

WWW.GOV.UK

 

 

2.7 Excluded debts

All personal debts and liabilities are qualifying debts, except for:

• council tax liabilities have not yet fallen due. If all instalments for that financial year have fallen due and have not been paid, these are considered to be a qualifying debt. If a debtor has been served with a ‘reminder notice’ to pay a council tax bill, the remaining liability for the financial year is a qualifying debt
• ......................................

CTAX: as you have been, regardless to settling a sum demanded at one point, behind 3? times now, they are entitled to apply for an LO.

 

i seriously doubt there is any underhand motive behind wishing statements, and anyway, as for bailiffs, there is no right of forced entry with a CTAX LO. to all intent and purpose, should they ever get involved they can simply be ignored ,

 

but ideally should that happen (via a notice of enforcement) immediately  agree a payment plan even if its latterly sorted by the council to avoid bailiff fees which can get to £310. never let or invite them in regardless to whatever they claim about listing 'goods' .

 

32 minutes ago, JohnBishop said:

Are they going to help my employer to get the money from the bank who keeps it on hold for two months?

what this all about?

 

dx

 

[JohnBishop]

So this last reminder was basically meaningless.

 

Yes, the bank held an international US->UK money transfer in USD for 2 months.
When this started the cryptos also started to take off I reckon the bank held it to gamble and make about $200k on it especially when they have a good intel on the future trends.

I would do the same. Wondering how much capital gain tax (or whatever tax) are they going to pay.

[dx100uk]

no unless you informed them this was wages and was going to happen .....they had to hold it under money laundering rules.

 

was this the only time you've been paid via this us>uk transfer?

 

sorry but you are bringing far to many tinfoil hat conspiracy theories in here that it smells you are part to blame here by disappearing down twaddle rabbit holes. be careful .

 

dx

[JohnBishop]

No, it wasn't me transferring the money but business to business, US corporation to small UK business but not some one man limited company.

 

Do you think it was held for that long because of money laundering?

 

IMHO anti-money laundering is just to prevent small fishes from doing what the sharks in the City and Canary Wharf are doing.

This is the great way of eliminating the competition under the pretence of taking care of people like with COnVID lockdowns and travel restrictions and this is a conspiratorial practice.

 

In the last 20 years 20 000 small banks disappeared from EU banking ecosystem because of the growing regulations (to protect us from the invisible enemy I reckon from terrorists, Russian and NK spies).

 

Do you think this is good for the economy? Exactly a year before COnVID in March 2019 I can see the 1st troubling signs of it when I look at the price of gold.

 

Thank you for your assistance so far.

[dx100uk]

urm... far too many conspiracy theories there , i can see why you have had or do have some issues.

 

money laundering rules apply across the board.

 

i would pers be dropping all of those out of any comms you have with anyone regarding resolving this issue.

it will almost certainly exacerbate any favourable movement fwd and only make you look a fool

 

dx

 

 

 

[JohnBishop]

Apologies but what I said about anti-laundering, City and COnVID is off-topic,  I wasn't raising this with the council.

[Homer67]

You're spelling Covid wrongly, it's C-o-v-i-d or C19, whichever you prefer.

[JohnBishop]

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