Too many people in one house.

[philmycoke]

1. mother

2. daughter + baby

3. 2 sons.

4. sons wives + baby

5. son in law (soon)

6. All in a 2 bedroom flat. 6 adults and 2 babies.

7. 3 of the 6 adults would be in the flat through illegal visa fraud. 2 wives have got their passports.

 

i know their address, their names and how they did passport fraud.

 

i called police, they told me to go there, i went there, they said we don't do it, go crime stoppers,

i went to crime stoppers and they spoke some crap and told me to go elsewhere.

 

can someone please 1st explain is there something wrong with point 6 and 7. if so what can i do about it urgently.

 

 

 

 

[honeybee13]

Are you sure you want to get involved in this?

 

If you're sure about visa or passport fraud, you seem to be able to report this kind of thing to the Home Office.

 

Report an immigration or border crime - GOV.UK

WWW.GOV.UK

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Report someone who you think may be living or working in the UK illegally, employing someone illegally

 

 

HB

[BankFodder]

Local paper?

Local MP?

[unclebulgaria67]

Local Council Authority would be responsible for dealing with over occupied properties.

 

Would be seen as a possible safety risk for not only the people living in the property, but also others who live in other properties nearby.

 

With that many people living in a house, it would not be possible to maintain a safe environment for all the occupants.

 

 

[Bazooka Boo]

Is this affecting you directly?

Do you live next door?

Does this impact your standard of living?

[unclebulgaria67]

Shelter Legal England - Overcrowding - Shelter England

ENGLAND.SHELTER.ORG.UK

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The legal definition of overcrowding and action that occupiers can take if their home is overcrowded.

 

[dx100uk]

why get involved if they are not harming you ..help them rather than persecute them.

we are all humans no matter what our colour...

[unclebulgaria67]

The why get involved thought is certainly a reasonable approach to take.

 

However, if @philmycokeis aware of a potentially dangerous situation and decided against pursuing this further, how would they feel, if something happened at some point.

 

It depends on the reason for wanting to report this.  Is there a concern about the safety of those living in the property ? 

[dx100uk]

pardon me for being rather cynical upon the posters intentions here , but odds on i'll guess they are the landlord going by their past threads here....

 

 

just musing...

 

dx

[philmycoke]

1. reported them to the immigration people from above. 2 passport frauds have taken place and 3rd one is on the way. Same accountant. Same lies. same deal.

2. reported them to the council.

 

for DX100uk, who's primary job is to disturb people looking for help and advise. always the troll. i am sure hes paid to be negertive. putting people off from posting unless they subscribe or something. other forums do use these tactics.

 

i know them. i have fallen out with them. the issue was for long time i thought it is okay. there business.

 

however what they have done is married working girls from there native countries, told them about heaven in the UK and now 90% sure the first one is being pimped out. and 2nd one will start soon.

 

through general conversation, girls dropped some hints, took few months to find out where they are from, local area etc and found out there names are real and they are the very two girls the pimps are looking for.

 

i made it very clear to the council and immigration, how i know all this. how i am and why i am reporting. and yes i have explained why i have fallen out with them. i think it was important. i left my number with both if they want to discuss this further.

 

both girls are nice so therefore i wish to help them. first one had a baby and now she cant even run away back to her orginal country. if she does pimps will chop her up. so now shes stuck.

 

thinking of the child, mother, condttion of the way they live and there treatment, i am sorry i cant put up with it.

 

i think we can close this post before the troll starts up again. site owners support him and he has made my life miserbale on few basic questions asked.

 

over all, what i could do i did it. now it is up the people who have this report.

 

thank you all.

 

[unclebulgaria67]

@philmycokeDo you want the thread to be locked, so no further replies are added ?

 

In your last post you have mentioned a number of criminal allegations and you should insist at the local Police station that they make a report.  If they try to fob you off, ask to speak to the Duty Sargeant. 

 

 

 

 

[BazzaS]

So, for a long time you “thought it was OK”, but now you’ve fallen out with them, all of a sudden you want to act on:

a) alleged immigration fraud, and

b) apparent over-crowding,
but these were all acceptable to you as “

i know them. i have fallen out with them. the issue was for long time i thought it is okay. there business.”

 

So, it doesn’t really seem that you want to help any of them, even the “nice girls”.

 

Either it needed reporting before, or it doesn’t need reporting now.

 

If the change is that you’ve fallen out with them : this seems motivated by spite. Nice one.

[philmycoke]

3 minutes ago, BazzaS said:

So, for a long time you “thought it was OK”, but now you’ve fallen out with them, all of a sudden you want to act on:

a) alleged immigration fraud, and

b) apparent over-crowding,
but these were all acceptable to you as “

i know them. i have fallen out with them. the issue was for long time i thought it is okay. there business.”

 

So, it doesn’t really seem that you want to help any of them, even the “nice girls”.

 

Either it needed reporting before, or it doesn’t need reporting now.

 

If the change is that you’ve fallen out with them : this seems motivated by spite. Nice one.

Stop trying to psyco analizing each and every word.

 

when the first passport fruad took place it was one person in the house.

 

pimping and 3 more passport frauds and 9 adults in one house is recent.

 

yes both reports i have told them that i haev fallen out with them, so who ever reads the report at least know this. i feel it is important to know this.

 

9 people or 8 in a 2 bedroom flat is apprenent in your eyes? okay man.

 

it has taken about 2 years to figure it all out. put it all togehter. get some things confirmed etc.

3 hours ago, unclebulgaria67 said:

@philmycokeDo you want the thread to be locked, so no further replies are added ?

 

In your last post you have mentioned a number of criminal allegations and you should insist at the local Police station that they make a report.  If they try to fob you off, ask to speak to the Duty Sargeant. 

 

 

1. i will go to the police too now.

2. lock it please. so it is read only.

thank you

3 hours ago, unclebulgaria67 said:

 

 

[BazzaS]

How many immigration frauds do you have to know of before you decide to act?

 

How overcrowded does a property have to be before you decide to act?

 

You expect us to believe it is no coincidence that it has suddenly gone over the threshold at which you feel it goes from “I’ll turn a blind eye” to “I’ll dob them in”, for both, completely unrelated to your falling out with them.

 

Clearly your moral standards are entirely consistent throughout.

[philmycoke]

i understand i should of done it quicker, so therefore i will drop it. Bazzas is right.

 

can someone delete this post.

 

i have fallen out with them yes. when i found out the rest, i had to think. you are safe in your council flat etc. i am not!

 

all they have to think is how many people knows about us, limit it to few and smash me up and u and your troll bf will have a laugh when i come here seeking help again.

 

there are 1000s of things to consider. do i have to spill the whole beans in a time line for u.

 

i got 2 links and police suggerstion. done the first 2. i will go visit a police station next.

 

some one might think i am the gulity party.

[45002]

9 hours ago, dx100uk said:

pardon me for being rather cynical upon the posters intentions here , but odds on i'll guess they are the landlord going by their past threads here....

 

just musing...

 

dx

 

Call me cynical, I have been reading OP previous threads too....

 

If OP is LL, makes you wonder why they have not issued NQT/ Possession proceedings against tenants, or are they trying to get some else to do it for free for them.

 

LL needs to careful they are not prosecuted for overcrowding....

 

PS. dx100uk is definitely Not a troll, see post #10

[BazzaS]

IF the OP is the LL (expect the OP to get very coy about this!) : it isn’t just the council (housing enforcement) they’d have to worry about.

 

The LL can be asked for copies of their “right to rent check”. If they accepted the passport as evidence of right to rent, knowing it to have been fraudulently obtained (or once they then acquired the knowledge it was fraudulently obtained) - that’s a whole new kettle of fish.

[philmycoke]

i am sure you are all trying to be very helpful.

 

i am not ll or ss or tt or aa or bb.

 

the property is a fh. owned by the mother.

 

anyhow it has been reported to council and immigration. last question. shall i go visit a police station too?

[unclebulgaria67]

@philmycoke
You have lots of information now to use in deciding how to pursue this further. Yes go to the Police station and file a report.

 

Thread locked for now.