The European Union.....In or Out?

[Conniff]

Your hero Cameron made a right arse of himself last night, what a plonker. Caught waffling just like you do.

[tobyjugg2]

Cameron made a right arse of himself last night, what a plonker.

 

Nothing new there then despite some regularly claiming that the Conservatives are always right - Con-moron being the unchallenged leader of the Conservatives.

 

Nice to see you are perhaps coming around to at least some semblance of reason.

 

Before your apparent turnaround quoted here (I'm sure I'm mistaken on that if nothing else) I was going to suggest you consider changing your nym here to Fallacy?

- 'sounds about right.

[honeybee13]

Could someone enlighten me as to what Cameron did last night please?

 

HB

[buckthorn]

Could someone enlighten me as to what Cameron did last night please?

 

HB

 

Yes! he spoke a whole load of rubbish, and really did not like it when a young lady accused him of waffling, which he was.

[snowdragon]

thought all Politicians waffled and are rubbish!

[obiter dictum]

Name me any politician that is 100% truthful with the electorate??

[buckthorn]

Those people who say we should vote to stay in the EU, by

using arguments to frighten the living day lights out of people,

have really sunk to a new level, which they have called a

“glitch”, some glitch.

 

Election officials admitted 1.5 million EU citizens living in

the UK have wrongly been sent postal votes for the

referendum in which they are not entitled to vote. Others

have been sent polling cards, postal votes being the main

concern as most of them have already been returned.

 

Apparently the Election Commission has admitted a number

of local authorities were involved in this so called “glitch” in

election software, which is used by several councils, which

failed to record the nationalities of some voters. I don’t

believe a word of it, I really can’t see how with the importance

given to this referendum that that sort of mistake could

possible made I would be more inclined to think it was

deliberate, after all EU nationals have a vested interest in

voting to remain in order to protect their rights, which

includes their right to work and live here.

 

Check EU nationals get EU referendum vote.

The guardian.

[Conniff]

Could someone enlighten me as to what Cameron did last night please?

 

HB

 

He tried his hardest to get off the subject of immigration and kept trying to change it to a scare story, but it didn't work.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amOuiTJI_2w

 

He says they have no chance of getting in despite him saying before that he would back Turkey and do everything in his power to get them into the EU.

[tobyjugg2]

Could someone enlighten me as to what Cameron did last night please?

 

HB

 

 

Interview with Faisal Islam on Sky re EU

https://corporate.sky.com/media-centre/media-packs/2016/the-eu-in-or-out---interview-with-david-cameron-8pm,-20616

 

 

Another interview tonight with Gove Vs Faisel

[fletch70]

Toby

personally I can not see Conniff ever coming round to what many people call reason although I am a little surprised that he is not a fan of Camoron, maybe he is more a fan of the [edited] from Grantham, the most divisive politician in living memory, as his views seem definitely on the right.

 

I know that cameron has spoken in the past about wanting Turkey in the EU but maybe, just maybe , he wants a democratic right wing country that follows the holy grail of the right. Personally I can not see that happening anytime soon.

 

Turkey may be a member of Nato and in the Council of Europe but that is a long way from being a member of the EU.

Edited June 3, 2016 by honeybee13
Pejorative word removed.

[Conniff]

Name me any politician that is 100% truthful with the electorate??

 

Ian Duncan Smith, Michael Gove, Boris Johnson

[Consumer dude]

You forgot Nigel Farage..

[Conniff]

You forgot Nigel Farage..

 

He should be knighted.

[buckthorn]

thought all Politicians waffled and are rubbish!

 

Yes! but at least it is our rubbish unlike the garbage that is the EU commission which we can’t get rid of, and nobody elected.

[tobyjugg2]

You forgot Nigel Farage..

Whens he on?

Now that will be worth watching

[tobyjugg2]

Toby

personally I can not see Conniff ever coming round to what many people call reason although I am a little surprised that he is not a fan of Camoron, maybe he is more a fan of the [edited] from Grantham, the most divisive politician in living memory, as his views seem definitely on the right.

 

I know that cameron has spoken in the past about wanting Turkey in the EU but maybe, just maybe , he wants a democratic right wing country that follows the holy grail of the right. Personally I can not see that happening anytime soon.

 

Turkey may be a member of Nato and in the Council of Europe but that is a long way from being a member of the EU.

 

Too true on all counts.

Edited June 3, 2016 by honeybee13
Pejorative word in quote removed.

[fletch70]

Ian Duncan Smith, Michael Gove, Boris Johnson

 

Oh three of the most competent politicians we have , who never ever lie pmsl

 

As for Farage, if I really wouldn't trust a word he said

[cjcregg]

Boris Johnson

 

 

100% truthful?

 

 

''In November 2004, the British tabloids revealed that since 2000, Johnson had been having an affair with Spectator columnist Petronella Wyatt, resulting in two terminated pregnancies. Johnson initially dismissed the claims as "piffle". After the allegations were proven, Howard asked Johnson to resign from his position as vice chairman and shadow arts minister, not because of the affair but because he had publicly lied about it. Johnson refused, defending his right to lie, at which Howard sacked him from those positions.''

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Johnson

[fletch70]

Boris is playing for the ultimate position that of PM

 

he is hoping that we vote for a Brexit, the moron resigns and St Boris arrives on his white charger to save the day

 

Do we really want a buffoon for prime minister?

[Conniff]

Toby

personally I can not see Conniff ever coming round to what many people call reason although I am a little surprised that he is not a fan of Camoron, maybe he is more a fan of the [edited] from Grantham, the most divisive politician in living memory, as his views seem definitely on the right.

 

I know that cameron has spoken in the past about wanting Turkey in the EU but maybe, just maybe , he wants a democratic right wing country that follows the holy grail of the right. Personally I can not see that happening anytime soon.

 

Turkey may be a member of Nato and in the Council of Europe but that is a long way from being a member of the EU.

 

 

Why should I come around to your reason, I have chosen the sensible line, not the crackpots road.

 

It makes no difference what clubs Turkey belongs to, and Nato has nothing to do with anything. Cameron stood on a platform in Turkey and gave a load of bull thinking it would make

him popular, now it's proved the other way, he is trying to back track and get out of it.

 

I wonder if Turkey will help us in WW3.

[cjcregg]

 

I wonder if Turkey will help us in WW3.

 

 

If WW2 is anything to go by, yes.

[unclebulgaria67]

For those interested, here are details of how the votes will be counted and when the results will be announced.

 

http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/i-am-a/journalist/eu-referendum-count

[san_d]

The benefits of leaving the EU:

 

- beer would be free for all

- holidays abroad would also be free

- unemployment to zero

- minimum wage £35 an hour

- we can smoke in pubs again!

- new trade agreements with USA and China, but on our terms, because we're bigger than them

- roads will be pretty much empty because we know it's the foreigners who clog them

- no more floodings

- crime will go to zero, just like before we entered the EU

- pedophilia will be virtually extint. Jimmy Saville was a Polish immigrant

- Farage, Gove, Johnson. One of these will become the new king of England, after killing the other two

- we can finally get rid of the Scots and the Welsh

[determindator]

Those people who say we should vote to stay in the EU, by

using arguments to frighten the living day lights out of people,

have really sunk to a new level, which they have called a

“glitch”, some glitch.

 

Election officials admitted 1.5 million EU citizens living in

the UK have wrongly been sent postal votes for the

referendum in which they are not entitled to vote. Others

have been sent polling cards, postal votes being the main

concern as most of them have already been returned.

 

Apparently the Election Commission has admitted a number

of local authorities were involved in this so called “glitch” in

election software, which is used by several councils, which

failed to record the nationalities of some voters. I don’t

believe a word of it, I really can’t see how with the importance

given to this referendum that that sort of mistake could

possible made I would be more inclined to think it was

deliberate, after all EU nationals have a vested interest in

voting to remain in order to protect their rights, which

includes their right to work and live here.

 

Check EU nationals get EU referendum vote.

The guardian.

 

This is why I think the referendum will be decided for us.

[Consumer dude]

This is why I think the referendum will be decided for us.

 

You mean corruption ?..