CCTV rules

[johnjordan]

My neighbour and I are having problems with anti social behaviour from the school we live next to. We both appreciate that children will be naughty sometimes but due to the complete lack of supervision by the school during play periods they run riot.

 

The main problem is stone throwing into our gardens which has already resulted in two broken windows but the school deny it has anything to do with them.

 

My neighbour wants to install a CCTV camera at the bottom of his garden pointing directly at the play area but I am saying he cannot do this.

 

Is he correct in thinking he can do this please?

[silverfox1961]

Hi,

I don't believe he can aim the camera in such a way as to capture images directly from the school grounds however, it may be allowable where the majority of his property is covered by the camera with just a small amount of the school grounds covered.

 

Personally, I would ask the local plod for more advice and whether they would be willing to install cameras for a short period.

[obiter dictum]

No

 

If you did it you might find yourself on a charge of Voyeurism

 

 

Schools are private property not in the public domain, the same as your property

 

How would you feel if your next door neighbour fitted a camera looking into your garden?

[king12345]

I was in exactly the same situation just before school break,

 

 

but I caught the kids red handed while the teachers "supervising" them were busy doing everything except looking after the kids.

 

I have tried to get all authorities to look into why kids are left to do what they want instead of being supervised,

but so far I have only encountered a wall of covering up for each other (head teacher, council, governors etc.)

 

My advice to you is to invest a bit of your time, keep a step next to your fence and catch the kids.

 

At that point you'll be able at least to complain.

 

Not that they will do anything, but at least Ofsted will record it and they will bring it up at next inspection (so they say)

[dx100uk]

for those wanting the full story

the back ground is in this thread

 

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?448878-School-making-house-worthless

 

 

dx

[dx100uk]

as for cameras

theres nothing stopping him from having a camera pointing that way

but I would air on the side of it being say halfway down the garden

so it is atleast filming the back fence shall we say

that should give footage of the stones coming over

and p'haps those that are throwing them.

[stu007]

Hi

 

Have a good read of this link from the ICO: https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-data-protection/cctv/

[Ethel Street]

ICO specific advice for private individuals who put CCTV cameras on their house

 

https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/cctv/

 

 

 

If you did it you might find yourself on a charge of Voyeurism

 

Yikes! What goes on in the playground of your local school? Voyeurism requires someone to be secretly observing a 'private act', defined in law as an act in which "(a)the person’s genitals, buttocks or breasts are exposed or covered only with underwear, (b)the person is using a lavatory, or ©the person is doing a sexual act that is not of a kind ordinarily done in public." Which of those might be happening in OP's school playground?

[obiter dictum]

Those images observing a school playground might include images looking into a school changing room overlooking the playground

 

Voyeurism also includes observing people in various stages of undress, not just sexual activity

 

Google ran into that problem when using Google street view and peoples houses

[Ethel Street]

Those images observing a school playground might include images into a school changing room overlooking the playground

 

Google ran into that problem when using Google street view

 

What school has changing rooms that would allow someone outside the changing rooms to see naked children? I work in schools. I don't believe there is any such school in the country.

[obiter dictum]

Changing room have windows that look out, do they not??

 

Some people just get a kick out of observing children just in a playground.

 

If you are of the opinion that is OK from a third party source to collate images without prior consent then we really are in trouble.

 

Photographing kids at school, inside or out without prior agreement is simply wrong on all levels

[Ethel Street]

Changing room have windows that look out, do they not??

 

No. I have never heard of a school with windows that naked children can look out through.

 

If you are of the opinion that is OK from a third party source to collate images without prior consent then we really are in trouble.

 

I never said or implied anything remotely like that. Disagree with my definition of the law on Voyeurism if you want to but don't imply that I have opinions that I don't hold about subjects that I haven't mentioned.Thank you. My opinion is that I agree with the ICO's advice on the link I posted for the OP.