employment ministers fantastic quote

[Zonker]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/third-benefit-fit-162543735.html

 

Yep 36% savings on ib to esa. Wonder if that is a general figure before appeals lol

 

Love the way he puts it, ib was a failing benefit. Soooo ESA and erm Atos mix is wonderful. DONT THINK SO!

[Slatted]

I personally love the bit about "intensive support" idea....so that is what WP and sanctions do is it....support...... :-/

[Zonker]

Its true sanctions do honestly make you work!! ...those on sanctions are obviously work shy. Its only you to blame if there are no jobs you can do. If youve applied for every job and turned down by them all, again clearly its your fault not being successful amongst the many many applicants.

 

Ok that was tongue in check but reality is he is proud that many people who were on IB now arnt on ESA. Is that because they are unable to face the trial of ESA appeal, unable to understand the forms and presumed the decision was correct?

[Nystagmite]

Ok that was tongue in check but reality is he is proud that many people who were on IB now arnt on ESA. Is that because they are unable to face the trial of ESA appeal, unable to understand the forms and presumed the decision was correct?

 

Many are too ill to go through with an appeal.

[Zonker]

Many are too ill to go through with an appeal.

 

Yes i agree and its awful they feel proud that there is another one of the 'sick list'

[Simon7685]

A lot of us just can't take the risk either, worried that they will conduct their dirty tricks of using a WCA result to disallow other benefits such as DLA. Quite simply when it comes to the crunch a lot of people feel forced off benefit to retain their DLA. They certainly know what they are doing but that doesn't make it right!

[Zonker]

All available evidence, yes thats a nice phrase and the rules for passing information to dla decision makers. A system that sounds good untill you realise the flawed nature of the ESA system

 

I agree simon , im concerned myself if upon assessment for ESA it messes up my DLA. If that happens im ready to go 'looney' at them lol

[Zonker]

Wierd or what , my friend rang me this morning saying because of esa decision dla has been affected. One word i can think of at the moment and its not appropriate to the forum.

[Dilizjo]

OK so where are these job vacancies going to come from? they have raised the retirement age, there are God knows how many able bodied fighting for low paid jobs. No employer would consider taking anyone on that has proven diagnosed conditions that would affect their productivity in the workplace when there are so many able bodied needing work. The only employers that would are those who do the work experience schemes effectively trading off cheap labour.