Calling all disabled people on ESA that have had a raw deal with ATOS it's time to fight back.

[ee-bee]

hi, i dont use facebook myself,but do use my daughters boyfriend account just to do farmville(i know i`m sad)so have joined the group under his name,if i reply to anything on there i will put my user name in brackets,also my daughter has joined this group as a few of her friends are disabled

[RaeUK]

Thanks ee-bee, we're now well into double figures! Once we hit treble figures we can start looking at organising things - hopefully in the middle of their pesky election

Best wishes

Rae

[ee-bee]

im sure you can get loads of support and ideas on the benefits and work forum too

 

hi,i`v just been on this forum ,i have already joined but not subscribed,have tried to put a post on about the facebook page so more people would join but all i keep getting is the offer of subscribing,so it appears i cant post,did try though

[pompeyfaith]

ee-bee ok thanks for trying so the general public can view but need a one year sub to post no doubt a cagger who has will pick up this thread soon

[mazbck]

Got this today from a page Im a member of on FB, its about the WCA

 

http://www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/work-capability-assessment-review-addendum.pdf

[Like-Im-Being-Ripped-Off]

Got this today from a page Im a member of on FB, its about the WCA

 

http://www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/work-capability-assessment-review-addendum.pdf

 

Maz interesting will decipher it and let you all know.

 

LIBRO

[Corporate Justice]

Hey

 

OK, Atos have been rude and abrupt with me twice on on the phone and actually bullied me out of continuing with my ESA claim!

 

Eventually I got so annoyed about it I went back, got on ESA, forced my GP to get me into a specialist and hey presto no ATOS to be seen! I am waiting for an appointment with them but I felt it important to get to the specialist first given my previous experience with them, at least they cannot undermine a professional opinion surely?

[pompeyfaith]

Hiya One and All

 

This will interest you it smacks of incompetency this girl had two ATOS medical assessments one by a future employer they said she was not fit to work so this girl claims ESA and had a medical again by ATOS and they said (yup you have guessed it) she was fit to work.

 

Meridian Regional News | Merdian Tonight - ITV Local

 

PF

[Like-Im-Being-Ripped-Off]

Hiya One and All

 

This will interest you it smacks of incompetency this girl had two ATOS medical assessments one by a future employer they said she was not fit to work so this girl claims ESA and had a medical again by ATOS and they said (yup you have guessed it) she was fit to work.

 

Meridian Regional News | Merdian Tonight - ITV Local

 

PF

 

That said it all it has to change!

[griffdaz]

Hi All

I Cannot agree more that we should all join forces and cause as much of a stir as possible. With all due respect i doubt very much that asking your local candidates their view and intentions will have any affect at all.

We disabled are an easy target and should not accept this anymore.

This may sound extreme but i feel we need to take this to London (those of us that are able to do so) and gain as much media attention as possible.

It is only a matter of time that we are going to lose out financially and when this happens it will be impossible to reverse.

We need to stop this from happening.

What are your views?

How would we go about it?

[Laura Cooke]

[george1961]

I tried something similar on another site and it mysteriously got shut down,dont mention dr,s names as you could maybe get the site into trouble.I agree we all need to do something about atos.

 

Everyone who loses their benefits should go to appeal as it may cause havoc with the appeals process, everyone should get their mp involved as they wont like to work for a change , everyone should write to yvette cooper as i am sure she thinks people wont, everyone should complain to atos and go through their complaints procedure to make their job harder, everyone that can should take their complaints to the general medical council to try and get them involved,everyone that can should contact the parlimentary ombudsman as they can look into the dwp and atos.

 

We may not be able to march on 10 downing street but we all maybe individualy be able to disrupt the system and the people that work for atos.I have and i will not take no for an answer from atos, the dwp, my mp, yvette cooper or anyone else i think is cullpable for this totaly unfair biased system that our government have put in place.Please keep fighting and dont let them push you aside.

[mazbck]

I contacted both my Mp and MSP and the appeal came round a way lot quicker thatn expected, and my MP contacted Yvette Cooper who has passed the buck to Terry Moran who is CEO of DWP!!

 

We have out son's appeal on Tuesday.

 

We should keep up the pressure and the more people who know about the ATOS mickey mouse doctors the better.

 

Even if when I talk to people at the jobcentre they are appalled that a mojority of people who are clearly ill and shouldnt be working are failing the medical exams.

[Laura Cooke]

Nice to see a few more posts coming in!

A new facebook page has been created. Log in to fb, click groups and search for 'Give It Back!'.

I'll be getting my personal website up and running, hopefully by the end of the coming week.

Best wishes

Rae.

 

 

Hi Rae

 

Can`t find the group give it back on facebook?

[mazbck]

Welcome to Facebook

 

Here is the link Laura.

[Laura Cooke]

Thanks really really suprised that this topic on here and on FB as not generated a huge response I was ashamed to read the piece on amputees being defined as fit for work if they can pick things up with both stumps if this government was as tough on crime and immigration and the bankers then this country wouldn`t be in the mess it is:)

Edited April 18, 2010 by Laura Cooke

[tech1]

Hi

Is There a website or forum where you can post the name of the Atos HCP that carried out your WCA and was found to have complaints against him upheld by the Atos 1st tier tribunal as in my case .

( the tribunal even said this "doctor" has a higher complaint rate than is to be expected and will be reviewed by the MM )

He came to uk from Poland and never worked for anyone but ATOS and didnt have 3 yrs post registration with GMC.

I'm still in process of finding what registered body in poland he had 3 yrs post reg with !

was to have my ESA appeal last fri but on the morning they rang me and told me they looked at my evidence and they had allowed my appeal !

Still not gonna let them get off that easily ,this Doc hasnt heard the last of me until he is sanctioned for what he did/is doing.

Sorry to sound paranoid but had a year of this and you tend to go one way or the other ....give up through the sheer stress of it all ..or fight like hell and give them all you got(if your able to )

Cheers

[george1961]

I contacted both my Mp and MSP and the appeal came round a way lot quicker thatn expected, and my MP contacted Yvette Cooper who has passed the buck to Terry Moran who is CEO of DWP!!

 

We have out son's appeal on Tuesday.

 

We should keep up the pressure and the more people who know about the ATOS mickey mouse doctors the better.

 

Even if when I talk to people at the jobcentre they are appalled that a mojority of people who are clearly ill and shouldnt be working are failing the medical exams.

 

 

I had a letter from terry moran telling me that the dwp had gave me all the information about my case and he told me not to write any more letters as all my questions had been answered.Guess what ? the information he gave me was totaly wrong ! i got compensation off the dwp for maladministration, so dont even believe terry moran.Good luck in your case

[Like-Im-Being-Ripped-Off]

I had a letter from terry moran telling me that the dwp had gave me all the information about my case and he told me not to write any more letters as all my questions had been answered.Guess what ? the information he gave me was totaly wrong ! i got compensation off the dwp for maladministration, so dont even believe terry moran.Good luck in your case

 

Hi George.

 

Please post your letter from him, but remove your personal information.

so we can see what a load of rubbish they are spouting.

 

Libro

[george1961]

Hi George.

 

Please post your letter from him, but remove your personal information.

so we can see what a load of rubbish they are spouting.

 

Libro

 

Its quite long but bear with me and i will post it

[Nix25hobbs]

Well done for setting up the group. I know my case isn't as severe as most and I do want to work but I thought my case exemplified the failings of Atos so HAD to speak to the media. They have no justifications as to the contradictory findings but I am sure they will somehow wangle their way out of taking responsibility.

 

I would advise people to contact their MP (although now parliament has dissolved i'm not sure how that works???) as mine as been really supportive (although unfortunately has achieved little in regards to holding atos to account).

 

Just keep fighting for what you rightly deserve.

[mazbck]

Well done for setting up the group. I know my case isn't as severe as most and I do want to work but I thought my case exemplified the failings of Atos so HAD to speak to the media. They have no justifications as to the contradictory findings but I am sure they will somehow wangle their way out of taking responsibility.

 

I would advise people to contact their MP (although now parliament has dissolved i'm not sure how that works???) as mine as been really supportive (although unfortunately has achieved little in regards to holding atos to account).

 

Just keep fighting for what you rightly deserve.

 

Every case is SEVERE as ATOS failings are ruining lives. They are blantanly ignoring the medical evidence from your own doctors and specialists.

[patrickq1]

I had a letter from terry moran telling me that the dwp had gave me all the information about my case and he told me not to write any more letters as all my questions had been answered.Guess what ? the information he gave me was totaly wrong ! i got compensation off the dwp for maladministration, so dont even believe terry moran.Good luck in your case

both labour and conservatives are using the same advisor who recomends ATOS HEALTHCARE so do not expect either of those two parties to help

[45002]

both labour and conservatives are using the same advisor who recomends ATOS HEALTHCARE so do not expect either of those two parties to help

 

 

I don't think the 3 main parties will give a hoot anyway because ATOS are doing there job,less people on IB/ESA and More on JSA or working.

Have a read of this it makes for shocking read http://research.dwp.gov.uk/asd/workingage/esa_wca/esa_wca_19012010.pdf and this just one quarter/3 month period last year.

 

9 per cent have been assessed as Support Group

23 per cent have been assessed as Work Related Activity

68 per cent have been deemed Fit for Work

 

What's is going to happen and is happening More people will be forced off IB/ESA to JSA and work and more people getting into debt.

 

I'm sorry,but we all need to get a reality check

Edited April 20, 2010 by 45002

[Like-Im-Being-Ripped-Off]

I don't think the 3 main parties will give a hoot anyway because ATOS are doing there job,less people on IB/ESA and More on JSA or working.

Have a read of this it makes for shocking read http://research.dwp.gov.uk/asd/workingage/esa_wca/esa_wca_19012010.pdf and this just one quarter/3 month period last year.

 

9 per cent have been assessed as Support Group

23 per cent have been assessed as Work Related Activity

68 per cent have been deemed Fit for Work

 

What's is going to happen and is happening More people will be forced off IB/ESA to JSA and work and more people getting into debt.

 

I'm sorry,but we all need to get a reality check

 

I started this thread hoping there were some people with no how on what sort of route to take.

 

Come on people we need to take action "NOW":-(

 

Libro.