Welcome Finance - This company needs to be banned.

[violethill]

hi everyone iv got loan with welcome and am currently waiting for fos to sort ppi been a year now hopefully not much longer , my question is have they ad to pay quite alot back and also my final agreement with welcome is actually not dated or signed by a member of staff does this put my agreement into question and will the fos deal with this at the same time . is there a way to get help paying back and stopping the excess interest if the loan agreement is invalid will thefos spot this sorry if i don,t make sense:confused:

[Dipply75]

Been away for a while and things seem to be moving forward again.

 

Dipply, I'm having problems with Cohen as well. Am I right in thinking that in order for Welcome to pass my account to Lewis, they need to send me a Notice of Assignment?

 

Unsure, I think if they are only collecting on behalf of WF, ie not bought the debt then no, but am checking that for myself also...but WF should have informed you they were passing the account on (didn't tell me either lol)

 

If you would like their general e-mail addresses to bombard them, just leme know, judging by the sniffy responses I got they really don't like that

 

Have Cohens done the whole 'we are preparing court papers' malarkey?

[Dipply75]

dipply please can i share your champs i seam to have drunk all mine earlier whilst i was waiting

 

lol, of course.If Welcome go under the first round is on me

 

I've had a special bottle sitting for years now and this occasion is well worth popping it for!

 

Dipply

[lawfrodo]

hi, i'm new to posting on this forum. could anyone advise me please? my wife and i took out a joint secured loan with wf(our house is in my name) and then a new loan to pay the first off and give us more money etc. a few things seem like they may be dodgey about our loan agreement to me; on the second loan the wf agent signed as the witness, they said we had to take ppi etc to get the loan, even though my wife and i work as agency workers(and then they only put it in my wifes name), i did not sign a from saying that they could put a charge on our property and we have not recieved a letter from wf to say that they have, or a letter from the land registry saying that a charge has been put on our property.

 

do you think that any or all of these things would make our loan unenforceable?

 

and do you think that we have a case to reclaim ppi?

 

advice would be appreciated

 

regards, lawrence

[miziwizzi]

8 guests

 

i know ime famouse but the guests do increase when ever i start posting

 

welcome

 

i know all your dirty secrets

 

so does the fsa, fos,oft and the seriouse fraud squad

 

ive seen to that with the evidence

 

so you thought changing the accounts into progressive financial services from welcome would hide it did you

 

think again

 

 

Love it

[traz39]

RNS Number : 6658V Cattles PLC 15 July 2009

15 July 2009

Cattles plc

Extension of Bank Facility

Cattles plc (the Company) is pleased to announce that all of the lenders under its £500 million syndicated banking facility have agreed to extend the facility maturity from 14 July 2009 to 31 December 2009.

In addition, the Company has entered into further agreements and facility amendments with all its bank lenders and USPP noteholders with an aim towards immediately stabilising the financial position of Welcome Financial Services Limited (WFSL) and the Company's other subsidiaries (the Group) pursuant to discussions around a wider restructuring of the Group.

The Company and WFSL remain in discussions with all their financial creditors with a view to achieving a formal standstill agreement.

 

ENQUIRIES

 

Margaret Young, Executive Chairman, Cattles plc

Geoffrey Pelham-Lane/Paul Marriott, Financial Dynamics

Tel: 020 7269 7252

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This information is provided by RNS The company news service from the London Stock Exchange

END

 

MSCQZLFFKDBLBBD

[traz39]

thoughts anyone????????????

[EBOY]

Don't be distracted. Their lenders have obviously not got back the money they were hoping for. Press ahead with claims and don't allow Welcome any breathing space. Stick to your deadlines and not welcome's.

[Beck1968]

About Right im afraid........

 

a repreve till Dec 2009.....this gives them time to carve out all the assets

and dump all the debt (PPI Ect) through the liquidation of welcome.

 

but also structuring a "Tax Loss" (Tax Break) to the creditors

 

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

 

But that's Business....

[eeeezzzyy]

About Right im afraid........

 

a repreve till Dec 2009.....this gives them time to carve out all the assets

and dump all the debt (PPI Ect) through the liquidation of welcome.

 

but also structuring a "Tax Loss" (Tax Break) to the creditors

 

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

 

But that's Business....

Well the asset bit shouldnt take long (they havent got any) like Post said Welcome/Cattles are damaged goods, The FSA is aware, The Serious Fraud squad, The OFT this IMO is mearly a stay of execution

 

The fight goes on........

[EBOY]

My first action of the day will be a letter before action over charges.

[b4bod]

Ahoy Ahoy!

 

Welcome have been making violent love to my credit rating for 4ish years now, after reading on here about reclaiming PPI, I sent the letter that has this in it...

 

I purchased the above policy from you in March 2005 but now believe that I was mis-sold this policy for the following reasons:

 

This is due to the fact that I was not given the correct information when the policy was sold to me, as

 

• Your salesperson implied that taking out the policy would assist my credit application.

• Your salesperson was very pushy in selling me the policy so that I felt I could not say no.

• Your salesperson did not tell me that the policy was optional

• Your salesperson stated that taking out the policy was essential for me to get the associated credit even though I informed them that I already had alternative insurance cover.

• I am concerned the sales assistant that sold me the policy has no financial background and the policy was not sold in my best interests

 

 

I have copies of my agreement etc, so I didnt request the SAR, is this right? its been 23 days (not that I'm counting ). If I put the account into dispute, what does this do? and how do I do it?

 

Keep up the good work with 'Operation Welcome'

[postggj]

this is not a set back

just a stay of execution, its only six months

 

the prob was there is an election comming up, a local labour authority pension fund is tied up in cattles

 

not saying any political pressure but,

 

WHAT THIS WILL MEAN IS AN EXPLOSION IN LITIGATION FROM

H COHEN

LEWIS

CL FINANCE

 

THERE WILL BE FRANTIC EFFORTS TO GET COURT JUDGEMENTS TO RAISE THE ACCOUNTS LEVEL

 

I AGREE BECK

 

A VERY LARGE CARVE UP IS NOW GOING TO HAPPEN BEFORE THE END OF DECEMBER

 

NOT LONG TO GO

[eeeezzzyy]

this is not a set back

just a stay of execution, its only six months

 

the prob was there is an election comming up, a local labour authority pension fund is tied up in cattles

 

not saying any political pressure but,

 

WHAT THIS WILL MEAN IS AN EXPLOSION IN LITIGATION FROM

H COHEN

LEWIS

CL FINANCE

 

THERE WILL BE FRANTIC EFFORTS TO GET COURT JUDGEMENTS TO RAISE THE ACCOUNTS LEVEL

 

I AGREE BECK

 

A VERY LARGE CARVE UP IS NOW GOING TO HAPPEN BEFORE THE END OF DECEMBER

 

NOT LONG TO GO

I am i right in saying that the assets side of things is very minimal, surely apart from some property etc theres not a lot that can be sold on to reduce the "debt" ?

 

Like you say its a stay of execution !

[postggj]

Cattles Have No Assetts

Even The Buildings Are Leased

The Shares Are Worthless

 

The Only Way To Raise The Bank Balance Is To Get There Puppet H Cohen To Start Court Claims.

 

I Think We Can Tie These Claims Up For Six Months With Cpr Requests, Great Defence, Etc

 

After All

Cohen Never Replies To Cpr And Its Then Claim Withdrawn

[Beck1968]

which local labour party pension fund !!!!!!!!!!!

[postggj]

Manchester

[postggj]

Barclays Plc 94,062,121 £6,471,474

Standard Life 71,935,274 £4,949,147

UBS Global Asset Management - Traditional 35,517,746 £2,443,621

Standard Life Investment Limited 24,073,008 £1,656,223

Lloyds TSB Group 17,882,900 £1,230,344

Tameside MBC re Greater Manchester Pension Fund 17,554,654 £1,207,760

FMR Corp 17,000,000 £1,169,600

Scottish Widows Investment Partnership Ltd 16,112,063 £1,108,510

F&C Asset Management PLC 15,993,301 £1,100,339

Morley Fund Management Ltd 9,904,957 £681,461

[Beck1968]

That Needs Getting In The News Today

[postggj]

Will Cattles Now Release Its Last 2 Years Of Accounts

I Dont Think So

They Have Been Ejected From The Stock Exchange Because Of This

 

It Will Show The True State Of The Company

 

All Smoke Screen And Mirrors So Far

[postggj]

That Needs Getting In The News Today

 

A CERTAIN JOURNALIST ON A FINANCIAL PAPER READS THIS THREAD EACH DAY

 

HE KNOWS

 

SAY NO MORE

[Beck1968]

PM me what you definatley know about the labour party pension fund

and i will get it in the news

 

 

opps crossed chat

Edited July 15, 2009 by Beck1968
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[postggj]

"The Company and WFSL remain in discussions with all their financial creditors with a view to achieving a formal standstill agreement."

 

Nothing has really changed.

[Tariq2009]

FORMAL NOTICE - ACCOUNT IN DISPUTE.

 

Ref: ****************

 

Dear Sir/Madam,

 

Thank you for your letter of xx/xx/xx, the contents of which have been noted. DELETE IF NOT NEEDED

 

You have been issued with notification from the Financial Ombudsman Service that they are investigating details of the above account and therefore I allege the amount your company claim to be outstanding is erroneous and therefore have a legal basis to put this account into dispute pending the investigation and decision by the Financial Ombudsman.

 

Therefore I will be cancelling future payments to your company from todays date.

 

Furthermore you should be aware that a creditor is not permitted to take ANY action against an account whilst it remains in dispute.

 

* You may not demand any payment on the account, nor am I obliged to offer any payment to you.

* You may not add further interest or any charges to the account.

* You may not pass the account to a third party.

* You may not register any information in respect of the account with any credit reference agency.

* You may not issue a default notice related to the account.

 

I reserve the right to report your actions to any such regulatory authorities as I see fit.

 

I would appreciate your due diligence in this matter by ensuring that I have no further contact from your company save for any matter regarding the investigation in progress.

 

Yours faithfully

 

 

 

Guys little bit struggling about dispute letter this one got ombudsman bit on it and I have not yet started the process of complain with them what is the best dispute letter to just put welcome finance account on hold because of miss sold insurance on the account Thanks

[eeeezzzyy]

"The Company and WFSL remain in discussions with all their financial creditors with a view to achieving a formal standstill agreement."

 

Nothing has really changed.

In a nutshell Cattles heads still on the chopping block, the executioner's gone for tea !!!