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Hi all 

 

Got stopped using my fathers freedom pass on TFL services which was given to me before starting work in London.

I didn't think much of it and have been using it since probably twice a week on average.

 

Up to this point I had been using it and even when asked by staff in the past on DLR to scan the card I had scanned in with I had been showing them the staff pass so really didn't think anything of it.

 

However, today I was stopped after going through a barrier and quickly realised that I was in the wrong by the tone of the member of staff (this has now been furthered by researching the severity on forums and threads like these). During the conversation with the member of staff I didn't disclose how long I had been using the pass for or the amount of times, but he assumed I was visiting London due to the address on my driving license and I didn't correct him played along with this (don't really know why just kind of froze). He confiscated the pass, I gave him my details and now I can expect a letter in the post in the next couple of days according to the staff member. 

 

As far as reasoning goes for the use of the pass naivety is definitely at play (obviously not an excuse as I should have read the Ts & Cs) and obviously the main reason is the cost of living and as someone who has constantly been in their overdraft since the move the pass has helped me get to and from work without the extra worry of transport. Further to this I am genuinely remorseful for what I have done as now I have researched where the funding comes for such passes I am truly ashamed. Again, I know I'm stupid for not knowing this in the first place.

 

I am just creating this thread pre-emptively as I await the letter. There are mixed outcomes from what I can see but having a job which requires DBS and a profession which has no tolerance for this type of conviction if it goes this far I am very concerned with what may happen if this goes to court and criminal charges are brought against me.

 

Thanks in advance for any help that you may be able to give.

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  • dx100uk changed the title to Fathers Freedom staff pass use - 9 months use

was your father using it during the same period?

could TfL see a 'pattern of use' by you by times/day of each week if they did look into things deeper?

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi Dx, thanks for the response

 

No my father had not been using the card recently (as in since I moved here).

And it's hard to say depends how far they looked back.

 

For example for much of the month of April was out of the country so hadn't been using the card as much.

 

Likewise for the start of this month use has been sporadic.

 

If they looked back further however some sort of pattern could probably be picked up for at least once a week of me going into work and back home again, max 2 times a week. 

 

 

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well if there is no clear recent pattern ...then things look good.

 

obv they'll just mention the one 'offence' day you were 'caught'

 

as you'll see in other threads, you don't tell them anything they might not already know, so a good email in reply, when/if their letter comes, could see this resulting in an OOC if you are lucky.

 

 

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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if so type out the BLACK highlighted area paragraph please

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi Both- yeah so the letter says I was reported for an offence(s) . Facts being considered and legal proceedings may be taken.

 

Black highlighted:

"In order for the TFL to deal with this case correctly, please return the information requested on the reverse... email IAP@tfl.gov.uk within 10 days including the case number..."

 

Reverse side is the 2. If you accept committing an offence, please provide any exceptional reasons including pre-existing medical conditions that you may feel are relevant and evidence to support this,as to why Tfl should not proceed with prosecution.

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so standard 3 lines then.

ok time to construct your begging letter then

 

lots here to base your on.

 

dx

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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