Met Parking charge BP Garage Stansted Airport

[Homer67]

Hi All,

 

A friend of mine got a Met Parking charge whilst visiting the BP garage at Stansted airport CM24 1PY, his crime was to park on a yellow line in the garage forecourt as he didn't want fuel, so he didn't park on a pump and he went to the shop to get a coffee (no marked bays anywhere on the forecourt).

 

I have told him all the usual stuff but does anyone know if the BR garage forecourt is airport land?

[honeybee13]

Hi Homer.

 

I don't know about the forecourt, sorry. I don't suppose your friend has a receipt for the coffee?

 

HB

[lookinforinfo]

I looked up Google maps and when the photos were taken in 2018 Met parking were already there. At that time there were numerous parking spots around the checkout. Of course it could have been revamped since but as they had a Wild Bean cafe then onwe would assume that they would still require parking spots.

 

Postcode finder is no good for the airport but if we were dealing with a reputable parking company the NTK should indicate whether the keeper liability has been transferred from the driver.

[dx100uk]

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[Homer67]

Thanks all, I'll continue to advise him. No receipt for coffee but he paid by card so I'll suggest that as evidence he was there legitimately.

[Homer67]

Quick question: remind me what the timings are for a NTK for an ANPR parking charge please?

 

Incident was on 13/10/2022 and date of issue of NTK was 02/11/2022 I think it was received a few days ago.

[FTMDave]

The motorist has to receive it within 14 days of the incident date.

 

The fleecers are miles out.

[dx100uk]

dont think this is ANPR issue people?

an ANPR camera cannot detect you are parked on yellow lines that mean stuff all on private land anyway.

 

something is no right here homer67. unless he's telling a porkie and was there more than 30mins?

this sounds like a manual MNPR via CCTV , which if the case the NTK is correct, although they should have issued a windscreen ticket.

 

has the NTK got photos and timings?

scan it up please

 

 

 

dx

 

[FTMDave]

I looked on Google Maps to try and see the set up, and it seems that BP actually bother to reply to all the negative reviews.

 

They say to contact  careline@bp.com

 

Must be worth a try?

[dx100uk]

dont think this is ANPR issue people?

an ANPR camera cannot detect you are parked on yellow lines that mean stuff all on private land anyway.

 

something is no right here homer67. unless he's telling a porkie and was there more than 30mins?

this sounds like a manual MNPR via CCTV , which if the case the NTK is correct, although they should have issued a windscreen ticket.

 

has the NTK got photos and timings?

scan it up please

 

 

 

dx

 

[dx100uk]

god internet is a bit iffy on the isle tonight...

 

he could of course try and get macy'd's to cancel it, he did walk there didnt he....

[lookinforinfo]

As the PCN was late it perhaps confirms the carpark is covered by byelaws. Though in any event the keeper is no longer responsible so a word to your friend not to divulge the name of the driver.

[dx100uk]

54 minutes ago, lookinforinfo said:

As the PCN was late

was the PCN late? 

 

On 08/11/2022 at 12:23, Homer67 said:

his crime was to park on a yellow line in the garage forecourt

 

no such crime on private land

 

5 hours ago, Homer67 said:

Incident was on 13/10/2022 and date of issue of NTK was 02/11/2022

 

outside of 14 days for an ANPR capture.

 

there are no anpr cameras at all upon entering the BP petrol station  - see on youtube for 2022 videos

but anyway ANPR cameras cannot detect yellow line infractions. so NOT an ANPR capture = within 14 days for NTK.

 

there appears to be CCTV cameras on the building. 

so MET are using CCTV footage to remotely issue speculative invoices, which should be placed upon the physical windscreen of the vehicle after the expiry 5 mins of observation time...

 

but with a vanishing PCN, that makes the NTK time limits 29-56 days.

 

what our mate has is not within either NTK time limits.

 

there are lots of threads on the internet for this place, sadly it seems the likes of the cowboys site AND MS..e are advising wrongly to appeal...to make money i expect via PM's , neither are addressing these issues...tighten up CAG advisors please .

 

if we join these slightly misleading advice sites in misleading info i suggest a good get out seems to be appealing to MD's that you got a speculative invoice because you parked and walked there to get 'something' , that appears to work rather good in getting a met speculative invoice cancelled.....

 

 

[lookinforinfo]

dx100uk as there was no windscreen ticket then the PCN arrived late.  And even if there should have been a windscreen ticket issued, the time of the PCN was way to early  for that alternative so still the keeper would no longer be liable.

[dx100uk]

On 08/11/2022 at 12:23, Homer67 said:

A friend of mine got a Met Parking charge whilst visiting the BP garage at Stansted airport CM24 1PY, his crime was to park on a yellow line

 

12 minutes ago, lookinforinfo said:

dx100uk as there was no windscreen ticket then the PCN arrived late.

 

no a PCN can't be issued 'late' for a yellow line infraction, as what is stated on the PCN is the only way they would know what was done wrong?

unless they are guessing??

 

 surely it must be placed upon the windscreen at the time of infraction, it can't be latterly issued after reviewing CCTV...............

[Homer67]

He sent me a photo, no clue how to redact things, anyone help?

 

Edited November 10, 2022 by Homer67
upload wrong

[Homer67]

This is my 100th and final attempt at this, he needs to join the group himself and post as I haven't got a clue beyond typing text.

 

2022-11-02 MET NTK for 2022-10-13 yellow line infraction.pdf

[FTMDave]

I've had to hide it Homer, but I'll sort out the redaction late this evening when I knock off work - unless someone else does it first.

 

You're right, he needs to join himself and answer questions directly,.

[lookinforinfo]

Posted PCNs: If a vehicle is driven away before the Notice is issued, the PCN may be posted to the registered keeper of the vehicle.

Admittedly this rule was for Councils operating CCTV cameras but it was issued in 2008 but it does give the parking crooks a get out.

 

New Parking Laws UK | Enforcement and Fairness to Motorists

WWW.NEWPARKINGLAWS.CO.UK

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How the new laws make parking restrictions enforcement easier to implement and fairer to motorists

 

[Homer67]

So is there no out of time get out on this one then?

[dx100uk]

done it too pdf as upload tells you too. doc file have all your pers details in file info/properties + it was totally unredacted!!

 

thats the NTK not the PCN, has he the PCN?

 

at least we know where the camera is now

and it's a CCTV capture or they'll try and call it an MNPR capture 

 

if you read our sticky you filled out and NTK time limits there..

whichever way they want to cut it the timing is wrong.

 

ANPR NTK must be within 14days

anything else NTK is 29-56.

 

dx