Boris Johnson, former Prime Minister

[theoldrouge]

No mention ,of course, on here of Starmer sacking Angela’s boyfriend I see, wonder what Angela had to say on the subject ?

Seems to me Liz is quite open to fracking 

which would turn the Blackpool area from a sleazy tourist town into a boom area

Dont be afraid Liz ,explain the costs of net zero to people ,and the benefits of fracking and you will be a very popular PM

[honeybee13]

Who's Angela's boyfriend please?

[AndyOrch]

Sam Tarry shadow transport minister

 

Keir Starmer sacks Angela Rayner’s shadow minister boyfriend for joining rail strike picket line

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Sam Tarry joined striking RMT workers at Euston Station, just weeks after the Labour leader banned frontbenchers from taking part

 

[tobyjugg2]

12 hours ago, theoldrouge said:

No mention ,of course, on here of Starmer sacking Angela’s boyfriend I see, wonder what Angela had to say on the subject ?

 

No mention from you of Tories whip removed for not supporting corruption/Johnson

He did it according to his conscience and armed the Tories with it, starmer had little choice given the overall stance

Which is worse in your opinion then?

 

 

12 hours ago, theoldrouge said:

Seems to me Liz is quite open to fracking 

which would turn the Blackpool area from a sleazy tourist town into a boom area

 

Earthquake booms you mean?

 

12 hours ago, theoldrouge said:

Dont be afraid Liz ,explain the costs of net zero to people ,and the benefits of fracking and you will be a very popular PM

 

Liz's lies?

BS soundbiting again TOR

 

benefits of fracking? aka little or no benefits as already demonstrated other than a few individuals making reams of money

poisoned aquifers

Earthquakes

Taxpayer cost

Huge increases in heavy traffic on small roads and villages

sod all gas or oil

 

 

Whereas wind, solar and tidal =

Growth in jobs, including high value skills

Energy security

Clean energy

A livable world for our kids

 

 

 

[honeybee13]

Depressing stuff about Johnson planning to pack the Lords with new peerages. It's not good.

 

Boris Johnson is planning to fill the Lords with his cronies and legitimise bribery | Gordon Brown | The Guardian

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The honours system is rife with abuse and a paper by Lynton Crosby’s firm suggesting ‘rewards’ for compliant peers proves it, says former prime...

 

[honeybee13]

Swella tells government lawyers they can't call policies 'unlawful' and to be more 'creative'.

 

Suella Braverman bans lawyers from telling ministers their policies are unlawful

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The Attorney General's decision 'calls into question our ability to hold the Government to account', says one legal adviser

 

[tobyjugg2]

Following in Trumps footsteps

 

..  Lets hope trump ends up in Jail

[theoldrouge]

On 30/07/2022 at 09:43, tobyjugg2 said:

Following in Trumps footsteps

 

..  Lets hope trump ends up in Jail

 as things stand there’s more chance he’ll end up in the White House 

Look at Bidens approval ratings or 

those of Harris

Or how about Hilary?

 

[honeybee13]

Here's a report on the current chancellor and his shareholding in Yougov, along with the tax position. Dan Neidle is a senior tax and legal expert.

 

Chancellor Nadhim Zahawi’s tax affairs under scrutiny - New Statesman

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The lawyer Dan Neidle reflects on how Nadhim Zahawi’s solicitors sought to shut down his inquiries.

 

 

[tobyjugg2]

3 hours ago, theoldrouge said:

 as things stand there’s more chance he’ll end up in the White House 

Look at Bidens approval ratings or 

those of Harris

Or how about Hilary?

 

 

Rubbish.

Trumps ratings are falling like a stone.

[tobyjugg2]

1 hour ago, honeybee13 said:

Here's a report on the current chancellor and his shareholding in Yougov, along with the tax position. Dan Neidle is a senior tax and legal expert.

 

Chancellor Nadhim Zahawi’s tax affairs under scrutiny - New Statesman

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The lawyer Dan Neidle reflects on how Nadhim Zahawi’s solicitors sought to shut down his inquiries.

 

 

 

 

makes Sunak look legit ... in comparison to what I've read

[theoldrouge]

2 hours ago, tobyjugg2 said:

 

Rubbish.

Trumps ratings are falling like a stone.

I suggest you have a careful look at the Trump endorsed candidates standing in key positions in the swing states in the midterms 

If elected these are the people who will control the next presidential election 

The Democrats will likely be hammered in the midterms 

[theoldrouge]

Labour splitting again 

Could there be an early GE

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11065065/amp/DAN-HODGES-Labour-MPs-asking-Tories-rid-Boris-surely-dump-Keir.html

[honeybee13]

TJ and TOR, there is a thread on American elections/politics iin the Bear Garden.

 

Perhaps we could keep this thread to UK politics please?

[tobyjugg2]

44 minutes ago, theoldrouge said:

If elected

 

and if Boris Johnson started telling the truth he wouldn't be an unmitigated liar

[honeybee13]

Lack of confidence in the economy is preventing a growing number of businesses from investing.

 

Businesses are starting to get fed up as Brexit batters the economy

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The Institute of Directors and the West Midlands’ Tory mayor Andy Street have cited the UK’s relationship with Europe as a major impediment to...

 

[tobyjugg2]

I see sunak is now saying he will reduce income tax from 20% -16% by the end of the decade (7 years time) - if they are re-elected, despite correctly claiming that truss' tax reduction claims would further bankrupt the country

 

.. but you can guarantee that the way both would at least partially 'get the money up front' is by

1. Not increasing the base tax relief (and similar 'poor people benefits') thereby taking it off the poorest straight away in increasing amounts (given inflation)

2. Reduction in services, and costs of oversight of government, despite(because) an undoubted massive increase in taxpayer money routed to pals - as we have seen

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and lets not forget what tory election pledges are worth nowadays - sweet francis adams unless they want to pull them out to 'justify' some populist/pals agenda.

Edited August 1, 2022 by tobyjugg2

[brassnecked]

They are all useless, this might be of interest

Politics: a strange business | Turbulent Times

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I really don’t want to write another piece about the Tory leadership contest. And even though the Sunday newspapers are full of it, they don’t really have...

 

[tobyjugg2]

"That Bamford is picking up some of the tab might, in days gone past, have been called corruption, but Johnson is another of those re-writing the rules for the privileged classes.

At least, in this instance, the Oaf isn’t raiding the public purse"

 

- of course he is, Bamford wouldn't be doing this without him gaining at least 100x what its costing

 

"in the case of Transport for London (TfL) – part of the socialist domain of mayor Sadiq Khan"

"almost 600 TfL “fat cat” employees of the organisation earned £100,000 a year – while an ousted director got a £626,000 pay-off."

 

LOL weren't most of those fat cats set up and protected  under Johnson?

and isn't getting rid of them a good thing?

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[brassnecked]

Khan and Prince Charles need the Serious Fraud Office to investigate them it may seem.

[tobyjugg2]

FIRST: Johnson and Jenrick and cabal and VIPals, along with peerages for pals and Putins paymasters

.... although london based 'law enforcement' would undoubtedly prefer to target khan .. as no doubt directed

and undoubtedly any london based 'law enforcement' would have a couple of lifetimes of squads investigating and finding nothing if 'forced' to investigate Johnson, Jenrick and co

 

... whatever evidence a couple of investigative journalists might uncover in a week or two.

 

 

oh and

"Despite the massive inflation in public (and quasi-public) sector pay, the quality of management does not seem to have improved."

 

he needs to qualify that statement far better

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[theoldrouge]

2 hours ago, brassnecked said:

Khan and Prince Charles need the Serious Fraud Office to investigate them it may seem.

As corruption goes they would be second and third on my list BN

At the top by along way Labour controlled Oldham Council and Greater Manchester Police

The details of which are far too horrific to discuss here imo

[brassnecked]

Yes Oldham Council are a nasty sort of crowd, they send police to harass victims of mainly Pakistani Grooming gangs

[tobyjugg2]

away from the more rabid press, a more balanced perspective (not that it or I excuse the failings)

Even these horrors seem repeatedly trumped by the Met (IMO)

 

 

Grooming gang ringleader was employed by Oldham Council as welfare officer, major report reveals

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While criticising authorities over their failures, the independent review said there was no evidence of a cover-up.

 

[tobyjugg2]

I assume we can all agree that aside from the crimes themselves, the second (in some was equal first) greatest issue is that the investigations into the failings are still 'ongoing' after all this time.

 

The apparent kicking of investigations into the long grass until everyone involved is dead - seems to happen far to much when politicians and senior police are under scrutiny.