Boris Johnson, former Prime Minister

[honeybee13]

Boris Johnson ‘nominates father for a knighthood’ | Boris Johnson | The Guardian

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Former prime minister has requested knighthood for Stanley Johnson as part of his resignation honours list, says the Times

 

[tobyjugg2]

What for?

Services to avoiding international covid restrictions by jumping from country to country in pursuit of a haircut?

Services to the nation in showing how to NOT wear a mask

 

What next?

His dog for services to p*ssing all over 10 downing street and masking the smell of booze and puke

[honeybee13]

The first thing OH said was 'Why?'. You can only hope that Sunak blocks honours like this one.

 

The Times thinks that giving peerages to four sitting MPs could cause a constitutional crisis. No 10 seems to have a few headaches with Johnson's list.

[tobyjugg2]

Every single 'ennoblement of Johnson or Truss' should be reversed/blocked

[honeybee13]

Not directly linked to this thread except that Covid happened on Johnson's watch, Ofcom has found against the Mark Steyn programme on GB News. It misinformed the public on statistics produced about the vaccine.

 

Ofcom finds the Mark Steyn programme on GB News in breach of broadcasting rules

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Ofcom has today found the Mark Steyn programme, which aired on GB News on 21 April 2022, in breach of our broadcasting rules.

 

[tobyjugg2]

So its only taken ofcom about 11 months to issue a decision on the blatantly dishonest and misleading information presented, during which crusial period the misinformation has been spread and spread.

Which decision is buried away rather than GBnews being forced to issue headline retractions for 11 months at the start of all their news programs?

 

Worse than Useless twits

 

So how much are they being fined?

 

 

 

 

[theoldrouge]

A GB News spokesman said the channel was “disappointed by Ofcom’s finding”.

Our role in media is to ask tough questions, point out inconsistencies in Government policy, and hold public bodies to account when the facts justify it. Mark Steyn’s programme did exactly that. We support his right to challenge the status quo by examining the small but evident risks of the third Covid booster. In our 20 months and more than 11,000 hours of live broadcasting, this is Ofcom’s only finding against our television licence. It has not imposed a sanction.

22 hours ago, tobyjugg2 said:

 

So how much are they being fined?

 

 

 

 

Nothing 

[tobyjugg2]

No one has any issues whatsoever with any news service asking tough questions

 

Mark Steyn’s programme did nothing of the sort and his misrepresentation and outright lies .. even the Tory ruled regulator couldn't avoid .. eventually and far far to late

 

and Fox news and Murdoch is having to fight presenting lying crap in court

[theoldrouge]

Just because someone or somebody disagree with your opinion does not make their opinion either misrepresentation or lies
Will you be accusing the FBI of both shortly?

[honeybee13]

Ofcom called Steyn's report misleading. He breached broadcasting rules by not giving the whole picture.

 

Ocfom: We have been consistently clear that, under our rules, broadcasters are free to transmit programmes which may be considered controversial and challenging, or which question statistics or other evidence produced by governments or other official sources. It can clearly be in the public interest to do so. However, with this editorial freedom comes an obligation to ensure that, when portraying factual matters, audiences are not materially misled.

 

ETA: But the further point is about standards at GB News and whether the whole station is keeping within the guidance.

[tobyjugg2]

5 minutes ago, theoldrouge said:

Just because someone or somebody disagree with your opinion does not make their opinion either misrepresentation or lies
 

 

No but blatant misrepresenting or lying is - as they clearly did,

.. and have even eventually been found to have done by a largely ineffective politically controlled 'regulator

 

 

2 minutes ago, honeybee13 said:

Ofcom called Steyn's report misleading.

 

Anyone who actually simply read the referred detail could see that at the time, as is the case with most anri-vax lies

So why has it taken the regulator so long to largely do nothing in this and so many cases?

 

 

 

So @theoldrouge

Why dont we see apparent conspiracy nuts railing against 'suggestions' of using bleach to 'cure' covid and other real issues - often reported from the same sources you quote so often?

 

- or are you also just also misrepresenting/lying to suit an agenda and happy to let real issues pass?

 

[theoldrouge]

Conspiracy theories?? ?Lies and misinterpretation?????
Lab leaks anyone ????
 

ah those pesky FBI officials eh Jugg

[honeybee13]

OK, I'll ask. What about the FBI?

[tobyjugg2]

10 hours ago, tobyjugg2 said:

 

 

So @theoldrouge

Why dont we see apparent conspiracy nuts railing against 'suggestions' of using bleach to 'cure' covid and other real issues - often reported from the same sources you quote so often?

 

- or are you also just also misrepresenting/lying to suit an agenda and happy to let real issues pass?

 

 

[honeybee13]

No10 put pressure on BBC reporting of lockdown at the beginning of the pandemic and on other matters.

One BBC insider said: “Particularly on the website, our headlines have been determined by calls from Downing Street on a very regular basis.”

They said the messages would have been a small snapshot of what was going on, because most pressure was applied verbally rather than written down.

 

BBC came under No 10 pressure to avoid using ‘lockdown’ in early pandemic, leak shows | BBC | The Guardian

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Exclusive: leaked emails and WhatsApp messages reveal reporters also told to be more critical of Labour

 

[tobyjugg2]

Seemed clear to me for some time that the BBC costs/fees should be covered by the conservative party rather than the public.

They may not be as one sided as GoBNews, or TwitTV, but just because (for example) Laura NewsBorg is a bit smoother than them, and a number of the others (even those who haven't resigned) try to be impartial despite pressure, doesn't mean she isn't biased toward her Con PoopMeisters

 

BBC impartiality? - is a rather sick joke

[honeybee13]

From the Times this morning.

Johnson’s defence relies in part on a WhatsApp message sent by his director of communications setting out “lines to take”, but a Whitehall source said that Johnson had gone “off script”

I could believe the part about Johnson going off script. It'll be interesting to see if he can hold it together for long enough tomorrow afternoon to convince the committee that he didn't deliberately mislead the House. A Bozo explosion would be interesting...

[tobyjugg2]

Johnson:

'Theres no evidence I didn't believe it was a business meeting, just with cake, drinks, music and drunkenness  instead of an agenda, decorum and minutes.

You all know that I'm divorced from reality.

 

 

[tobyjugg2]

Laura Newsborg:

Thank you for explaining that Sir, and we at the ministry of truth will ensure that those Labour types are required to prove differentltly without allowing them to use any of the video or pictorial evidence - which of course is all from other times and places.

- as apparently the new leaders dont want embarrassment on The Party or Themselves either.

Edited March 21, 2023 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

and on a very related note,

When is Cress going to be censured and her pension and golden parachute clawed back for presiding over:

 

‘Culture of denial’ in Met Police let predators flourish, damning Casey review finds

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Britain’s largest force accused of ‘institutional racism, misogyny and homophobia’ – but commissioner Mark Rowley refuses to use the term

 

 

Let alone covering up for Johnson

Edited March 21, 2023 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

Boris 'the Liar' Johnson says that Parliament was mislead, but it wasn't intentionally his fault

... as everyone knew he is a compulsive liar, so how was he ever to expect anyone to believe him?

 

Mind you, he also claims that his 'advisors' assured him he wasn't breaking his own laws ...

... as its widely known Johnson doesn't think any laws apply to him - so they would have been telling him the truth even if he is lying about them saying it.

 

as an aside - are these 'advisors' Johnson refers still in government?

If so, why?

Surely they should be sacked without compensation for rank incompetence

.. err like Cress was(n't) ...

 

Edited March 21, 2023 by tobyjugg2

[honeybee13]

David Allen Green has a new blog on what he thinks is the purpose of Johnson's document issued yesterday, being the way Johnson wants to use the result of the investigation in the future. It's an interesting point of view.

 

“If Johnson had one strong basis for defence, a few pages would be enough, perhaps even one page, perhaps even one paragraph. But as a general rule: the longer the litigation letter, the weaker the case. This is 52 pages.”

 

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Independent commentary on law and policy from a liberal constitutionalist and critical perspective

 

[tobyjugg2]

“the Committee did not identify a single document which suggested that I was informed or warned by anyone that any event at No. 10 was contrary to the Rules or Guidance”

 

So does that mean that every person who was fined for breaching lockdown rules, and where there is some indication that someone/anyone said or maybe implied  it wouldn't breach the rules, gets their fine returned and conviction squashed ... plus compensation for false conviction?

 

..

Although in Johnsons case it was a recommended spin line to take on the events  wasn't it

 

lets not forget real people were told they couldn't talk to neighbors over a fence or go for a socially distanced walk with a friend.

[honeybee13]

There do seem to be a lot of holes in his defence...

 

ETA: Adam Wagner explains on BBC Radio 4's PM programme yesterday, from 6mn 30s into the interview.

 

PM - 21/03/2023 - BBC Sounds

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Afternoon news and current affairs programme

 

[tobyjugg2]

'I, Boris the Liar, do solemnly swear that I told the trough, the whole trough and nothing but the trough.

 

.. as Simon Case says: 'I never said the rules were followed and dont know of anyone who did ..

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/mar/22/simon-case-denies-telling-boris-johnson-covid-rules-were-always-followed-partygate

 

Edited March 22, 2023 by tobyjugg2