VCS PCN - bw legal letter of claim liverpool airport

[CW182]

Aoplogises in advance this is my 1st post, not sure if its in the correct place.

 

Had several letters from vcs and now bw legal latest one dated 6/12.

 

I replied to the 1st vcs one with a template from peppipo but ignored the rest....

 

.but worried now i should have replied to the latest one?

 

any help would be much appreciated

[dx100uk]

1st ive moved you from speeding motoring offences forum

as its neither of those

it is a private parking speculative invoice NOT A FINE.

 

so you have a letter of claim.

 

you need to reply to it

but 1st we need these questions answered PROPERLY

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?462118-Have-you-received-a-Parking-Ticket

 

inc your response using pp

and their letter of claim

scan them up to PDF read UPLOAD.

[CW182]

Thanks so much for the quick reply. Have access to a pc tomorrow so hopefully be able to get back to you with all the above.

Thanks again

[dx100uk]

what date was the letter of claim?

[CW182]

Letter of claim is dated 6/12/17.

Thanks

[brassnecked]

Letter of claim is dated 6/12/17.

Thanks

Did you acknowledge the Claim? as on MCOL, as you needed to do that by around 29th December. The danger is that they may now be able to gain a default CCJ.

[CW182]

No didn't acknowledge the letter of claim as didn't realise I needed to only reading another post yday did I think maybe I should. Is it best to just pay? Hubbie will go mental if i get a ccj.

Thanks

[disgruntled2007]

No didn't acknowledge the letter of claim as didn't realise I needed to only reading another post yday did I think maybe I should. Is it best to just pay? Hubbie will go mental if i get a ccj.

Thanks

 

WAIT. Don’t panic. Is it a letter of claim stating that they are instructed to issue court proceedings (or words to that effect) or is it actually a notification of a claim against you from the court? There is a big difference and the reaction to each is also different.

 

It would be very helpful if you could post a redacted pdf as requested in an earlier post.

[brassnecked]

Yes jumped the gun a little DG2007 is right, was it a 30 day letter as in intention to file claim if no response in 30 days as per new Pre Action Protocol?

[disgruntled2007]

Yes jumped the gun a little DG2007 is right, was it a 30 day letter as in intention to file claim if no response in 30 days as per new Pre Action Protocol?

 

Post it up and we can tell you...

 

Also, you need to answer the questions requested of you in post 2.

 

This is important to ensure the right advice is given.

 

Get these up as quick as you can as you still have a very brief period left to respond.

[CW182]

Not sure if I have done this Correctly:/ apologises I thought I had answered all the questions this morning but the post doesn't seem to be there will have another go now.

Thanks for all the replies much appreciated

 

For PNC's received through the post [ANPR camera capture]

 

please answer the following questions.

 

1 Date of the infringement

12/6/2017

 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date]

16/6/2017

 

3 Date received

Was away so think about 20/6/2017

 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [y/n?]

no

 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event?

yes

 

6 Have you appealed? {y/n?] post up your appeal]

no send a blanket response via email as per pepipoo forumn can upload if needed.

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up

no

 

7 Who is the parking company?

VCS, vehicle control services

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town]

Liverpool John Lennon Airport, stopped on a roadway where stopping is prohibitied

 

For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under.

IPC

 

 

 

If you have received any other correspondence, please mention it here

From VCS

Dates 16/6/2017- notice to keeper

Dates 11/8/2017Final reminder

Dated 9/10/2017, accpunt passed to legal team, in same envelope BW Legal letter.

From BW legal

Dated 9/10/2017 as above

Dated 7/11/2017 final notice

Dated 6/12/2017 letter of claim.

SKMBT_C284e18010215050.pdf

[ericsbrother]

usual stuff,

 

the main point is they state that it is for stopping where stopping is prohibited.

This is NOT a contractual matter so they can't claim money from you for breaching the contract, they haven't offered you one.

 

Now, they know this and have been spanked at court for this before so it would be wise to let them know in very plain language that you aren't going to play nicely.

so a response to BWL as follows

 

Dear sirs,

Unfortunately for you I wasnt born yesterday so I wont be paying the demand to your client as both you and they know what I know and that there is no liability in this matter because the land is covered by its own byelaws, the signage is prohibitive and not an offer of a contract so none has been breached and anyway the POFA limits any charge to the specified sum so your demand for £160 is just a nonsense.

 

As VCS has been spanked at court on this very same thing several times before I suggest that you tell you client to discontinue this foolishness and that way you will at least obey the SRA rules of conduct and obey civil procedure as well. I know that may well be a first for you but call it your new year's resolution.

 

Should they decide to continue then I shall be asking for a ful costs recovery order for unreasonable behaviour and the seek damages for breach of the DPA as per VCS v Philip, Liverpool CC dec 2016.

 

Even Will and John, the parking worlds worst solicitors seem to have got fed up with Simple Simon's stupidity and greed and presumably that is why you are wasting your ink on his behalf.

 

that hopefully will do the trick

[CW182]

I enjoyed reading your reply:) can this be send via email or is post best just worried about the time at letter dated the 6th Dec stated 30 days. Thanks so much you have been very quick responding:)

[ericsbrother]

NEVER USE EMAIL

you have to do a bit of further reading rather than just reading your own post.

get a letter out to them 1st class tomorrow and that will be fine.

 

there is nothing to worry about,

they know that they will lose a claim so wont be rushing off to court yet as they are hoping to get a cheque, not a massive bill from court

[CW182]

Thank you so much

 

my husband wanted me to pay as soon as I got it

 

then when someone me room a ccj I really panicked as husband would go mental.

 

Thank you for your quick response much appreciated.

Thank you

 

Sorry to ask again.....shall I amend what you wrote, buff it out or is what you wrote covered.

Thanks

[Gick]

Do not alter anything. Ericbrother has long experience on both the subject and the people involved.

 

Also, do not sign it, simply print your name as these conmen have a habit of copying signatures onto other documents. The only time to sign anything is on court papers. You are a long way from that if you send the above letter as they will realize that you are not going to be mugged.

[brassnecked]

Deffo send it word for word as per EB, if they ever did do court that letter would be in your bundle and the Judge would laugh VCS out of court.

[CW182]

Thanks for all the help and advice much appreciated.

Thank you

[CW182]

in my haste on my 15mins break today I sent the letter but with their address on instead of mine.

 

I also forgot the date but did manage to remember to include my name and the pcn number:(

 

Do you think this will be enough or should i send another tomorrow:/

 

Sorry for being so dim!

 

I am not always like this I promise.

 

One of them doing one thing not concentrating thinking of another 100 things you need to do!

[dx100uk]

I sent the letter but with their address on instead of mine.

 

sorry where on what?

[CW182]

Sorry I sent the letter but instead of including my address I put their address on letter as well as envelope so worried they might not have enough info with just the pcn number and my name.

[dx100uk]

that's enough

[CW182]

Thank you really need to slow down and concentrate on what I am doing maybe if I did that in the 1st place wouldn't be on this mess!!

Thank again for the quick response you have all been great