other UKPC Parking signs put upin private Estate without warning!

[JD444]

We live in a road, that is made up of privately owned houses and flats and which also contains around 15 social housing flats.

These properties were built 5 years ago.

 

This morning, a man from UKPC put up a load of parking notices, with various rules about parking in designated bays, displaying parking permits, time limits on parking in visitor bays and non return to visitor bays within 48 hours ETC.

Charges are £100, reduced to £60, if paid within 14 days.

 

None of the residents have been given prior notice that this company was going to be doing this!

The road is a private road, operated by a separate entity to the lease holders of the properties, and is only for the 90+ properties in this road.

 

At this point in time, no residents have been issued with any parking permits for their vehicles.

It seems to us that this company (UKPC) could, in theory, start issuing penalty/charge tickets to anyone now using this road.

 

Is there any legal right for residents to be informed that this was going to happen, or do the owners of the road have no legal duty to do so, other than putting up these signs?

 

Thanks.JD444

[ThedaBara]

I remember a few years back, in Rochford, Essex, a company called Shadow put up notices on private land which had always been used for residents parking, clamped 'offending' vehicles and towed them away after 48 hours. Motorists ended up payng more than £380 to get their cars back. Claims were attempted in the small claims court but the company folded before anyone got their money back... they apparently then set up a new company and did it all again and nobody could do anything about it. Crooks. TB

[ericsbrother]

They have obviously been invited to enter into an agreement with someone so you will need to find out who that someone is and then determine whether they have tyhe authority to act in this capacity to enter into contrcats that affect the people there.

 

Is there a managing agent for the common parts or maybe a residents management committee. If not then you need to contact ther company that owns the freehold for the common parts and ask them why they have allowed this company to put their signs up.( dont give any indication that you concede any right to as this juncture)

 

For the moment the signage is just graffiti and should the company try enforcing naything they will be in trouble but the problem is how many people living there know that?

 

If you have an allocated parking space that is part of a lease or tenancy UKPC are trespassing if they go anywhere near a vehicle that is parked in that space so let others in that position know and then you can contact UKPC and the BPA. the landlord etc to tell them that you will be taking legal action against them if you suffer trespass against your property and may also sue for harassment if there is recurrence of events.

 

If a management agent has signed the agreement with UKPC let them know that they have no right to do so and they will be sued the moment anyone gets a ticket for parking in their own space or in any way that is in accordance to their lease or tenancy.

Edited February 12, 2016 by citizenB

[honeybee13]

For the moment the signage is just graffiti and should the company try enforcing naything they will be in trouble but the problem is how many people living there know that?

 

Good point from EB. Have you spoken to your neighbours about this? It might be worth taking a group approach.

 

HB

[JD444]

This road contains both private flats and social housing.

 

Had an e-mail today from The housing association that own my place

and they say that UKPC will start enforcement from March the first.

 

 

They informed us that residents will get 1 permit per property

but whilst the housing association has about 15 marked parking spaces,

everyone and his wife park on the as the association refused to put flat numbers on the spaces, so it is a free for all,.

 

 

Private flats have their spaces marked with their flat or house number but not our places.

 

There are 97 flats and houses on this road but not enough spaces to go round.

Even the 4 "visitor spaces" are always full.

Also, many residents have more than one car!

 

They have put up around 10 signs around the place, many on lamp posts

and even 1 nailed to the wall of the associations flats!

 

I sent e-mail to the County Council about the amount of signs

and that they are highly visible from outside the boundary of this site,

asking them if the planning department had given this company planning permission to erect them.

 

I understand that if signs are put up on private ground they should not impinge on people's views outside the site.

 

I'm not holding my breath.

[Bazooka Boo]

whilst the housing association has about 15 marked parking spaces,

everyone and his wife park on them as the association refused to put flat numbers on the spaces, so it is a free for all,.

Private flats have their spaces marked with their flat or house number but not our places..

 

That is for the (your) residents protection, a burglar uses marked bays as a good indication as to which property is unoccupied and then it will attract their attention, they watch it for a few days seeing when the car is parked there and not, then when the parking bay is empty, hey ho, off to work they go.

 

Check your tenancy agreement to see if it mentions anything about a PPC, and your liability, guarantee it won't!.

[ericsbrother]

So, arrangemnet by Housing Association and UKPC? That means not with the landowner so you need to find out who owns the curtilage around the properties (will most likely be original developer)

As for parking chaos, blame John Prescott!