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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

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It is clear that you have no claim against us and while we do not accept liability for the claim, I am prepared ,in an effort to resolve this matter without the need for a court hearing, to refund the full amount........if i haven't got any grounds for a claim why not go to court then?

 

I look forward to hearing from you shortly in response to this offer so we can avoid taking up valuable court time........so why take up valuable court time then, why didn't you just pay up when i first asked instead of waiting for me to issue a claim in the court and then taking the time to acknowledge it ?

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citicards= £650/settled £650

Alliance and Leicester= £1534/request for payment sent/LBA sent/standard refusal/moneyclaimsent/settled £2003.36

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In responce to an SAR request detailing manual intervention from HFC

 

Although many of our systems are automated, a "manual intervention" by HFC staff may be required in a variety of situations including; account opening (realy now) dealing with correspondence (havnt you heard of OCR software) or telephone calls (press # followed by 9 5 3 6 then go away) and account administration (to transfer all the £30s to our own account)

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Sorry for resurrecting this one but I am seeing the question more and more so here are a few more gems.

andyace beat me to it but hey

We are still right but have a cheque for everything and please don't tell anyone.(yeah right like I am not going to say little ol me beat the bank)

 

We are admitting no liability and as a gesture of goodwill....(you are admitting you will lose).

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Halifux: 'We will not, no siree, absolutely not, under no circumstances, categorically state, that we will NOT pay you back any more money, so take this very generous GOGW of £100.......'

 

Followed by an 'upped' offer of £750 the next week.

Crash

 

 

 

 

DAY 1: 12/09 - S A R to British Gas

DAY 45: 27/10 - Data Non-Compliance sent off

DAY 67: 18/11 - N1 Deemed served

DAY 114: 03/01 - Judgment served £60 cheque rec'd; Prelim sent for overpayment refund of £393.06

24 Days: E2Save Settled in full £70

59 Days: Barclaycard claim Settled in full £134.39

162 Days: Halifax Settled in full £1543.80

179 Days: Barclays1 Settled in full £2450.45 + £447.02 in costs

254 Days: Barclays 2 Settled in full £1450.91

 

Advice & opinions offered are personal, and are offered informally, without prejudice & without liability. Should you be in any doubt, you are advised to seek the opinion of a qualified professional.

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from, as crashbandicoot refers the "halifux" -

"I note concern about our charges, but these types of (automated on Christmas Day) transactions do involve extra work and costs...." - press a button now. "crediting the account with funds on the same day does not necessarily cover debits made onthe account that day" - too much lsd "...we check your balance first thing in the morning" - have we got a problem with a likkle hangover then? "We advise customers to allow 3-4 bank working days for a credit to be made to the receiving account" like we beleive that transferring from one HFx account to another online is going to take 3-4 bank working days.........the drugs are on their desks with a glass of water - we've taken a pinch of salt!:D

Halifax - paid out without getting to court - £250 WON - no intention of going, stated too costly!!

Halifax no 2 account - paid out without a fight - (by mistake, £1650 - should have been £1200 - had to pay some back)

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I was stunned at Abbey Credit card today...

 

Thank you for your SAR letter dated 15/12/2006. We will be sending your request as soon as possible. We have considered the timescales you have set out in your letter and are offering a GOGW of £299.00 in respect of the charges applied to your account. - Ding Dong! - I ain't even received the info yet never mind added anything up yet! You bet you know it's gonna be a big one!

Lloyds TSB (C.Acc) **WON - Fully Settled**

NatWest - £1367.96 - N1 Filed - AQ Compl

Lloyds TSB - Select Loan PPI - £4629.52 - N1 Filed - Settlement rejected

Lloyds TSB Credit Card - £373.48 - N1 Filed

MBNA Credit Card - £791.52 - N1 Filed

Capital One - £746.67 - N1 Filed -** Settlement awaited **

Halifax Credit Card - £836.12 - N1 Filed

Paragon Personal Finance - S.A.R 15/12/2006

Littlewoods - £834.43 - N1 Filed

Barclaycard - £1145.00 - N1 Filed

My Wife:

Natwest Current Account - £1197.98 - N1 Filed at Court

Capital One - £1150.94 - N1 Filed - **Settlement offer rejected **

Littlewoods - £1405.48 - N1 Filed

8-) PROUD TO BE DEALING WITH MY DEBTS! 8-)

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Try this one we received from Nationwide Friday in reply to our Letter Before Action:

 

"We are genuinely sorry that this matter has caused you concern and hope this clarifies the situation and explains why we are unable to refund your charges. If you feel that you are unable to abide by the terms and conditions of your FlexAccount then regrettably it may be an appropriate time for you to consider changing your account to another provider."

 

In other words if you take action we will close your account!

 

MCOL Issued yesterday

Woolwich N1 issued 15.01.07 £11k

Acknowledged 01.02.07

Defence Filed 15.02.07

AQ Filed 21.02.07

AQ Deadline 05.03.07

Woolwich AQ late, given till 16.03.07

29.03.07, Judgement rec, woolwich to pay up by 10.04.07

Money received 16.04.07

 

Nationwide MCOL issued 22.01.07 £1k

Settled in full 05.02.07:D

Account being closed

Appeared on Watchdog 20.02.07

 

Abbey Issue MCOL £5k 24.01.07

Defence Filed 21.02.07

29.03.07, AQ hearing set for 20.04.07 with other like cases.

11.04.07, Full settlement letter received for £5,769.12

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Try this one we received from Nationwide Friday in reply to our Letter Before Action:

 

"We are genuinely sorry that this matter has caused you concern and hope this clarifies the situation and explains why we are unable to refund your charges. If you feel that you are unable to abide by the terms and conditions of your FlexAccount then regrettably it may be an appropriate time for you to consider changing your account to another provider."

 

In other words if you take action we will close your account!

 

MCOL Issued yesterday

Woolwich N1 issued 15.01.07 £11k

Acknowledged 01.02.07

Defence Filed 15.02.07

AQ Filed 21.02.07

AQ Deadline 05.03.07

Woolwich AQ late, given till 16.03.07

29.03.07, Judgement rec, woolwich to pay up by 10.04.07

Money received 16.04.07

 

Nationwide MCOL issued 22.01.07 £1k

Settled in full 05.02.07:D

Account being closed

Appeared on Watchdog 20.02.07

 

Abbey Issue MCOL £5k 24.01.07

Defence Filed 21.02.07

29.03.07, AQ hearing set for 20.04.07 with other like cases.

11.04.07, Full settlement letter received for £5,769.12

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Having reviewed your complaint, we don't agree with the assertions you have made. We consider our Charges to be Fair and Transparent.

 

That was my favourite :)

Completed:

Woolwich: Received £30

Intelligent Finance: Received £1100 after two years and approximately 20 letters, 6 pieces of hair and an eyeball.

Barclaycard: Received £90

HFC: Received £170

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This is part of my repy to Barclays Bank:

 

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You raised several pionts in your letter which need to be addressed.

 

You claim that your charges are fair and transparent.

I claim that they are excessive and unlawful, and as you have not provided me with any justification, or breakdown of costs, I find no reason to believe your claim that they are fair.

 

You inform me that you disagree with my legal analysis of case law which I have outlined in previous correspondence.

 

that is your right, and only a Judge can decide which of us is correct.

 

You state that the OFT recommended a fee of £12.00.

 

This is incorrect, I suggest that you study the report in more detail.

 

You state that I may ultimatly become eligable to refer to the Financial Ombudsman service.

 

Thank you very much, but this is completely irrelevant. As I have mentioned before this is a legal matter which I believe will be heard in the County court.

Don't forget to contribute 5% of your winnings. I know I wouldn't have been able to get my money back without the help of this website. :-D

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'You're a plebby little peasant who is put on this earth to disrupt our day by having the audacity to insist on being a customer and treated with some sort of repect. Go away'

 

which, of course, they don't actually say but comes over in what they do say

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Unlike other European countries where making payments while over drawn is an illegal offence, we offer free banking, provided customers manage thier account as effectively as possible

 

 

Abbey, is an 'illegal offence' one that is illegal and therefore not actually an offence?

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'I dont know where the TV is getting its information, its totally untrue NO ONE is getting refunds' Its just a media hype to scare monger..:p

 

Err hello ive had one lol :D

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My personal favourites from my own crusade are :

 

"No Directions are required in the Small Claims Track.” Doh !!

 

"In the interests of commerciality the Defendant consents to the entirety of the claim being dealt with in the Small Claims Court." which translates as "In the interests of trying to avoid Standard Disclosure ......"

 

"You asked Abbey to provide a breakdown of how our charges are apportioned. Abbey are not obliged to provide the specific information you have asked for." Except if a Judge Directs them to !!!

 

Regards, Mad Nick

Abbey £8370 settled 17 Apr 07

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We are sorry you are unhappy and we aim to respond to you sometime in the next 13 years. Hopefully by this time time you will either;

 

a) have got bored and given it up as a bad job

b) left the country and forgotten all about it

c) won the lottery

c) have died

 

In the mean time, please find the enclosed leaflets and I hope that by the time you have read them and had a translator and solicitor go through them, the laws will have changed in our favour.

 

This is what they really mean!!:p

 

hahaha, classic!

 

I love it when Smile say they "HAD" to make this payment, and then go into great detail to explain that their charges are listed in their terms and conditions.

 

They just HAD to, as if their conscience would not have let this go!

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Our "specialists" are available to assist you...............(and if you're lucky, you might get one who suggests you sell your house, clothes, soul etc, in order to make your monthly payment)

 

Let's hope is not any of the "specialists"who made their TV debut on Whistleblower

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See here http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/natwest-bank/55790-my-bro-natwest-4.html?highlight=my+bro+vs+natwest

 

for my contribution I so need to buy a scanner...(its page 4 you want, I have the feeling this could get much longer)

The views I express here are mere speculation based on my experience. I am not qualified nor insured to give legal advice and any action you take will be at your own risk.

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Oh and my mum got a corker off Abbey.

 

The amount is not in dispute (what we just told you it was, you don't understand how it works. If she says the amount is in dispute then IT IS and we settle it in court. If a company could just say no then there would be no need for civil court).

 

I note you have requested that we only communicate in writing (no she said it was harassment if they did not) however we require ot keep all channels of communication open.

 

Actually I'm going to get a thread up because I want to take these cretins to the cleaners.

 

In fact I'm so annoyed I'm going to speak to this prick on her behalf (with her presen of course, I'm aware of the data protection act unlike them).

The views I express here are mere speculation based on my experience. I am not qualified nor insured to give legal advice and any action you take will be at your own risk.

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Favorite quotes from Lloyds TSB response to LBA

 

"just as importantly we do everything we can to help our customers avoid these charges...." - Then why did you charge me and charge me and charge me.........?

 

"if you know a payment is going to take you over your agreed limit, you're welcome to see if there's anything we can do" - Think everyone knows what your gonna do if a a payment goes over an agreed limit. That's why we don't like talking to you!

 

"I do hope you can see we make our charging system as fair as possible" - Oh I can see that it's fair to someone!!! I hope you will see that my claim for a refund is as fair as possible!

Barclays - 2 Accounts - WON

Capital 1 - WON with CI

LTSB - WON

LTSB pre 6 years - N1 for non compliance filed

Barclays pre 6 years - Prelim sent

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And from Lloyds response to sar

 

"I refer to your recent request for copies of statements on your account to enable you to reconcile your bank charges" -jumping the gun aren't we?

 

"you may now wish to proceed with your claim for reimbursement of charges..." - yes. as a matter of fact i will

 

"if you feel you need further statements, please let me know by returning this letter in the envelope provided" -I think i'll send a non-compliance letter actually, since I already told you I wanted full disclosure!

 

"we are allowed up to 40 days to fulfil your request" - yes. I told you. But since you've sent me this on the 39th day, how do you expect to do that?

 

Are they being like this to purposely wind me up? I think so!

Abbey - *SETTLED IN FULL!* ;)

-£445 refunded after one phonecall

HERE

 

Lloyds - Reclaiming Charges ***WON!***

-09/05/07 - Prelim delivered

-22/05/07 - LBA sent - no response

-11/07/07 - Filed at court

- 26/07/07 - Full settlement offer!!!! Donation made ;)

HERE

 

Next - Trying to Sue us with no agreement! :lol:

-29/06/07 - Defence filed

-16/08/07 - AQ filed

-19/09/07 - Claim struck out!! :p

HERE and continued HERE

 

PLEASE CLICK MY SCALES IF I'VE HELPED!

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ya the banks owe us money.

 

we do not agree with the courts that they dont.

 

cus the law says that they do

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