PCN : Performing a prohibited turn - no right turn

[etheliscar]

Hi Experts,

 

I have just received a PCN for alleged contravention : PERFORMING A PROHIBITED TURN - NO RIGHT TURN.

 

I have attached a screenshot explaining in detail the exact scenario. please advice if I will be able to fight back. In the image i have drawn with yellow coloured line showing were i turned, the PCN image, and have also circled the signage. Also this all happened after it was dark on 1st week of march at around 8:30 pm

 

I found below quoted text at the following link http://www.penaltychargenotice.co.uk/site/moving-traffic-offences/50:-failing-to-comply-with-a-sign-indicating-a-prohibited-turn/

"Signs indicating prohibited signs at traffic lights should be next to the green light at the traffic lights and on both sides of the road."

 

Based on the attached screenshot any advice will be greatly appreciated.

[Michael Browne]

IMO the both the Ahead Only and No Right Turn signage seems compliant. I don't think any appeal would succeed on those grounds, so unless the ticket itself is faulty in some way, I wouldn't go further than the informal appeal whereby you would lose the chance to pay the discounted amount

[Al27]

Ahead only sign isn't relevant I'd say since the contravention is disobeying the no right turn sign.

 

Do you have a postcode so we can see on Streetview properly?

[patdavies]

It has to be signed as either ahead only or no right turn - it can't be both as they mean different things

[Michael Browne]

It's possible that there is a turning to the left at the Ahead Only just out of picture

[etheliscar]

Hi AI27,

 

See below link for street view....

51.583243,-0.331773 - Google Maps

 

 

Ahead only sign isn't relevant I'd say since the contravention is disobeying the no right turn sign.

 

Do you have a postcode so we can see on Streetview properly?

[2ltr16valve]

its also got ahead only on the road http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=51.583243,-0.331773&sll=51.583094,-0.331738&sspn=0.008853,0.022724&ie=UTF8&layer=c&cbll=51.583141,-0.33171&panoid=NAQnZvf50Cb2wdnSaqgH7g&cbp=12,322.6,,1,18.18&ll=51.583057,-0.33165&spn=0.008,0.022724&z=16

 

seems conflicting signs to me

[borisbeaver]

The right hand lane has ahead only. Also there is a no right turn sign adjacent.

 

51.583243,-0.331773 - Google Maps

 

Is'nt google street view remarkable, though the pictures can be taken over a year ago.

[etheliscar]

There is "No right turn" on the pole behind, but how much chance i have to appeal or it is not worth challenging and pay out

 

The right hand lane has ahead only. Also there is a no right turn sign adjacent.

 

51.583243,-0.331773 - Google Maps

 

Is'nt google street view remarkable, though the pictures can be taken over a year ago.

[sailor sam]

My take on this is that the 2 'ahead only' signs are to far in advance to cover the right turn and the 1 'no right turn' sign is to small on its own so there should be another on the opposite side of the road.

 

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[voukos]

I have just received a PCN for the same location. Should there be any signs warning of CCTV recording? How accurate does the PCN have to be? In vehicle make, it states Unknown.