Private Parking Tickets - General discussion points

[swiss_uk]

Hi GuidoT,

 

Thanks for your reply, however if they go unchallengfed they will simply obtain a CCJ against me which will cost more than the initial "PCN".

[swiss_uk]

UPDATE....

Not sure if this is success or not?!?!

 

Would really love some difinitive advice..........

 

Hello Mark,

 

Thank you for your correspondence, which I have noted on your file.

 

Kind Regards,

 

Claire

Debt Recovery Plus Ltd. Registered in England and Wales.

Registered office: 5 Grange Park Road, Cheadle, Cheshire, SK8 1HQ.

Company Registration No. 6774150. VAT Registration No. 977956045

 

From: Mark

Sent: 08 September 2010 14:54

To: Info

Subject: RE: 167598

 

Hi Tom,

 

The key point is that I have asked your company to refer this debt back to UKPC as it is still in dispute between myself and UKPC.

They have failed to offer any other remedial option than their own internal "appeals process".

If you wish to persue this case I will show that I have repeatedly asked to deal with this matter direct with UKPC beyond their internal processes.

UKPC are obligated to allow reasonable defense against their "penalty claims" which means a day in court.

 

I have all the correspondence with UKPC on file and I am very happy to demonstrate all the statements I have made along with the reasons for their validity.

 

Again I reject your claim and ask you to refer the case back to UKPC, whom I will be happy to deal with.

KInd regards

Mark

[GuidoT]

For you to end up with a CCJ, they have to commence legal proceedings, you then lose, then you do not pay the judgment debt within 28 days.

 

This will simply not happen, just ignore, they rely on people being concerned the way you are and paying up on that basis, PPCs rarely commence proceedings, never mind win. It is just a big [problem].

[swiss_uk]

Cheers for the reassurance GuidoT.

 

Ignore mode on ;-)

[crem]

As GuidoT says, you are totally wasting your time on them (although I guess you'd worked that out yourself by now).

 

Do not respond to them further unless you receive actual real court papers (which you won't).

 

They cannot get a CCJ "just coz they want one", they would have to have a case in court, which you would defend no doubt.

[letshelp]

Hi GuidoT,

 

Thanks for your reply, however if they go unchallengfed they will simply obtain a CCJ against me which will cost more than the initial "PCN".

Considering you have 'followed' this thread you seem to have missed the very important point about ignoring them.

You are treating them like a lawfull authority and pandering to their ego, how much they love that is reflected in their replies.

It would appear that you have fallen for this [problem] big time, especially with statement like the quote above. You need to stop playing their game and ignore them completely.

regards

[filthysurfer]

I still think this thread should be locked and a polite note explaining why posted at the beginning and the end.

[Bernie_the_Bolt]

FWIW, I have sent a note to the site team to say that I have no issue with the thread being closed.

[cwregular]

HELP

 

I have just ignored all letters from Lidl, They have now given my fine to a credit recovery agent, Im not to good on this site re finding previous posts, Can anybody help and advise and give me help to navigate me to proper threads.

 

Thanks in advance

[cwregular]

Help just got letter stating my case has been given to a recovery agent, i have ignored so far what do i do now

[DBC]

HELP

 

I have just ignored all letters from Lidl, They have now given my fine to a credit recovery agent, Im not to good on this site re finding previous posts, Can anybody help and advise and give me help to navigate me to proper threads.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Please, this is not a "fine". it's an invoice. Don't be frightened of debt collectors. They are just private citizens with no special powers. They cannot enter your property, they cannot seize goods and they cannot blacken your credit record over this parking ticket. Just keep ignoring this bunch of clowns.

[cwregular]

Thanks very much for that, Is your statement pertinent in Scotland, Thanks for your reply

[DBC]

Yes, this advice still applies to Scotland.

[HillSider78]

Hello all,

 

New to the forum, hoping for some advice on this issue. I too received a "fine" from Euro Car Parks for overstaying at a Sainsbury's car park in south London last year and, as per all the advice on here, have ignored all letters (which now number five). However, I have now received a call from Euro Car Parks. I was slightly on the back foot and said I hadn't received any letters (supposing that they can't prove I have). They are now sending another letter "with any evidence that we have".

 

Has anyone heard of ECP actually calling people before?

 

I'm wondering if now is the time to respond with the templated letter?

 

Thanks all

[GuidoT]

Welcome HS78 to CAG, just continue to ignore them, certainly do not speak to them.

[HillSider78]

Welcome HS78 to CAG, just continue to ignore them, certainly do not speak to them.

 

Any tips for if they phone again? Simply put the phone down? Stick on some holding music?!

[SURFBOY]

Any tips for if they phone again? Simply put the phone down? Stick on some holding music?!

Have some fun with them, ask them who they are after, tell them you will just go and get them then put the phone down and get on with what you were doing. Leave it for as long as you can because they are wasting their money then.

 

Play music, shout at them , tell them to Fxxk Oxx. There is all sorts of things you could do, Best to keep them on the line for as long as possible so they waste their money.

[letshelp]

Any tips for if they phone again? Simply put the phone down? Stick on some holding music?!

 

Loud whistles are quite effective or wisper so they struggle to hear then whistle, they ususally get the idea, do not however engage them in conversation.

regards

[chocchoc]

hello again! i first came on here in june about an OPC parking ticket. I am about to send them my final ceast and desist letter because after not replying to me for nearly 3 months they STILL havent given me the evidence i asked for and they've now transfered the matter to their legal department AND upped the charge to £100 from £50. With any luck they won't bother again, but im interested in OPC's previous habits?

[GuidoT]

Hi CC, just ignore them do not waste your time communicating with them.

 

This may be of interest:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?71953-OPC-Private-Parking-Tickets&p=3144055&viewfull=1#post3144055

[letshelp]

I am about to send them my final ceast and desist letter

 

You are wasting YOUR time and money, ignore them and let them waste their time and money.

 

because after not replying to me for nearly 3 months they STILL havent given me the evidence i asked for

 

They cannot give you what they don't have, they certainly don't have any 'evidence' against you, all they have is the details of the registered keeper who may or may not have been the driver at the time of any alleged incident.

 

and they've now transfered the matter to their legal department

 

The names these clowns give themselves never fail to make me laugh.

 

AND upped the charge to £100 from £50.

 

They can up it to, £1,000,000 if they like makes absolutely no difference. They are just trying to scare you with escalating amounts.

 

With any luck they won't bother again, but im interested in OPC's previous habits?

 

regards

[chocchoc]

they're so lame! lol thanks for the link! i won't get into anything with them after this last letter, iv got way more important things to think about, thanks guys:-)

[diamond4rosty2]

Hi all, i got a ticket outside comet about 6 weeks ago from central ticketing, ive not paid and not going to, ive just received my first letter today from them, probably 1 of many, usual stuff on it such as please pay on 14 days, bla bla bla, but at the bottom it says important notice to registered keeper, (whilst writing , we would like to draw your attention to common law doctrine of the law of agency, which comfirms that a principal (registered keeper) is liable for the act of its agent, (the driver), as a result of this, it is our intention to pursue the registered keeper/owner of the vehicle in the absence of driver specifics, now what does this mean in plain english, this is the first letter that i got from them and its from a roxburghe debt collectors, im not worried, just wondering if any other letters say the same, its probably some law there trying to scare me with to make me pay, one other thing how far are these scumbags willing to go and what other tactics are there willing to try to scare me to try and make me pay, thankyou.

[esmerobbo]

Ignore the dicks

 

In the same common law doctrine they are quoting it also states!!

 

Where acts are done by one person on behalf of another but without his knowledge or authority, he may elect to ratify or to disown the acts

 

they have added to" Principal" with registered keeper and "agent" with driver.

 

I think, they think by quoting such rubbish it may scare a few more into paying.

Edited October 22, 2010 by esmerobbo

[Conniff]

It means they talked to some smartarse who thinks he is a barrister and have found a new way of twisting words in the hope it will baffle the receiver and make pay.