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I have decided to start a PE thread as there has been so much activity by PE lately other threads are getting taken off topic by issues raised about PE's ability to make claims in court. The first thing I want to question is why have PE suddenly decided to flood the courts with these claims? Has it been proved how many cases are actually registered with the courts and how many have actually gone all the way? (regardless of result) How many of these claims have resulted in a a successful claim for PE? (we can get the details later whether they were undefended etc) Peanuts allergy posted the below information on another thread, my question to Peanuts allergy is this post appears to be presumption on your part, do you have evidence to state this is fact?
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Parking Charge notice for private company.
Homer67 replied to Hubblebub's topic in Private Land Parking Enforcement
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You parked in a Supermarket car park that is for public access and your passenger used the shop while you were there - what is their loss... nothing or small change for parking, so they can claim nothing from you or just the small change parking charge Either ignore or hover the mouse over the word ignore and send the prove costs or bog off letter, write to Aldi if you like but all they will do is send you a letter saying it's nowt to do with them and refer you to the Parking Eye Desk. Personally as you have started the ignore route I'd continue with that, if you are one of the few who receive stamped court papers then you have an absolute defence - you were parked while shopping and that's without the usual cannot claim costs other than actual losses/only landowner can claim losses etc defence
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Parking Eye Court papers here!
Homer67 replied to odwods's topic in Private Land Parking Enforcement
And as in post 22 they can still not pursue costs that exceed actual loss or prove they are entitled to claim any costs as only the land owner can do that - you have been told this so many times and not once have you responded with any proof showing PPC's can claim costs of any amount other than actual loss in circumstances other than where they are the landowner.- 37 replies
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Homer67 replied to cumbriaman's topic in Private Land Parking Enforcement
The fairest thing to do is advise the RK to write to the PPC Desk Jockeys once and tell them you were the driver on the day, then you can ignore their begging letters and the RK is not involved at all.- 50 replies
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Parking Eye Court papers here!
Homer67 replied to odwods's topic in Private Land Parking Enforcement
What do you want, written evidence from me? I have PPC invoices from every year going back for about 3 years, not that that makes any difference to the advice I have given which is the same as every other PPC despising poster on here. The law has not changed in the last few years other than the PPC are now able to send their unenforceable invoices to the RK of the vehicle - as 'I was not the driver' was never recommended as a defence it makes not one iota of difference. PPC's still have not addressed the issue of not being able to fine people or the fact that only the landowner is able to seek reimbursement of costs. So the 'good old days' as you put it have never gone away, PPC's are still toothless. As you seem to be so pro PPC I have to ask what is your agenda here?- 37 replies
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Parking Eye Court papers here!
Homer67 replied to odwods's topic in Private Land Parking Enforcement
Several, specifically it was unenforceable invoices from Parking Eye that brought me here in the first place, I have ignored several and I have more recently sent the prove costs and deny liability letter, no court papers ever received and interestingly enough Parking Eye are the mob that give up the quickest. Now show me your credentials and I don't mean your PPC and BPA membership card.- 37 replies
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I've asked you one question on another thread and you think that's arguing with everything you've said? Methinks the poster doth protest too much. Rattled your cage have I? Don't take quotes from different threads and try to quote me as giving inconsistent replies - court papers do not come from Debt Collectors, they come from the land owner or PPC if they are produced at all. A Debt Collector can issue whatever they like as an individual but not as a DCA on a debt they cannot enforce, any DCA will bog off the minute you advise the debt is denied as they cannot pursue it further - fact.
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Tell your Dad to write to the company once and tell them you were the driver of the car, that way you can ignore their begging letters and your Dad won't be on your back. Them being told you were the driver does not enable them to charge you anything either, you stayed in a free car park so what was their loss? As they are only allowed to claim losses and only then if they are the landowner, any percentage of free of charge is still zero.
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I've received a pcn from ANPR Ltd
Homer67 replied to pazzer77's topic in Private Land Parking Enforcement
Ignore, they are a joke and that letter reads as if written by a stroppy teenager 'well disappointed' indeed, the OED describes the word 'well' as relating to health and a hole in the ground, not an adjective or an adverb -
This is wrong, the DCA cannot take you to court for a debt that is denied, it must be referred back to the client for further action by them if they decide to do so. This applies to any debt being chased by DCA's This really is beginning to err on the side of scare mongering by the poster and I hope the Forum Mods are taking note.
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Parking Eye Court papers here!
Homer67 replied to odwods's topic in Private Land Parking Enforcement
I'm curious Peanutsallergy, why are you here exactly? You seem to be very pro PPC and you go to great lengths to rubbish any assurances given to posters receiving first time PPC invoices. I will do an FOI to PE and ask the relevant question but I doubt you will want to hear the answer, how about you start proving some of your given facts and give some figures to back up your claims that PE are doing court almost every time. I do think you are scaring people into paying instead of providing what is factually known - that PPC's can only claim actual loss and only the landowner can claim any loss in court.- 37 replies
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Parking Eye Court papers here!
Homer67 replied to odwods's topic in Private Land Parking Enforcement
Why were you 'expecting court papers' - PE may have been issuing more than usual lately but you make it sound like it's part of their process, it is still a very small percentage of their unenforceable invoices that are being issued with actual court papers.- 37 replies
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Debt Recovery Plus are a powerless Debt Collector and should only ever be responded to with 'Debt is denied, refer to back to your client' in writing, unsigned (print your name), never ever speak to a DCA on the telephone. If you do get court papers then come back here for help from the trusted posters. Do not let the recent flurry of threads about PE and court worry you too much, some may be bogus anyway.
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Parking Direct at Ealing Broadway station
Homer67 replied to cliffy38's topic in Private Land Parking Enforcement
Why are you paying an unenforceable invoice - it is not a fine, only Police, Courts and Government can fine you. Do some reading on the forum and you'll get the idea, ignore or send the dispute costs letter, then ignore. -
Dealing with a private parking fine
Homer67 replied to Cedar King's topic in Private Land Parking Enforcement
It's not a fine - only Police, Local Government and Courts can fine you, it is an unenforceable invoice, generally you can ignore and laugh at their ever more desperate begging letters or, as some PPC's have been issuing stamped court papers in the hope that you won't defend, you can send the dispute debt, prove costs and bog off letter - hover your mouse above the word ignore for details. -
You're best to start your own thread if you want specific answers, generally the action to take is either ignore or appeal (which will be refused) then send the prove costs, prove right to seek costs and deny and bog off letter - hover the mouse over the work ignore for this procedure.
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They don't sell the debt to a Debt Collector, they pass it on to the next desk where a script merchant sits who contacts you and tells you that they will take your house/children/grannie away if you don't cough up. All cobblers and worthy of note that so called Debt Collectors have absolutely no powers at all, never converse with them other than to say 'Any alleged debt is denied, refer back to your client, do not contact me again'
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I'm confused, is this a Parking CHARGE Notice or PENALTY charge notice - as it's on Railway land it could be either and the advice differs accordingly, please check and come back?
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There is no appeal process (apart from POPLA) so if yu have a strong will you can choose to ignore or, if you are easily intimidated, send the deny any debt, prove costs and bog off letter (hover mouse over the word ignore for details) Remember it is not a fine - only the police, council and courts can fine you, it is an unenforceable invoice. Do some reading on this forum and search BBC Watchdog Private Parking Tickets on Youtube to hear it from Anne Robinson
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Forgot to update this but my laptop was returned with a replaced hard drive, no charge and all working ok
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Never ever speak to Debt Collectors, they are powerless morons who will lie to you and tell you they are able to take your home, your children and your left leg when they are, in fact, completely powerless to do anything. They cannot visit you, they cannot instruct a Bailiff, they cannot enforce a private parking ticket which is nothing but an unenforceable invoice. Do not talk to them again, if they call you back tell them the debt is disputed and they must refer back to their client. what the 'debt collector' is in this case is the same Private Parking Company acting under another name at the next desk trying to bully you into paying something that you don't have to. Ignore them.
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