Or just bankrupt the nation .. and then go to war to cover for it China got rid of the trump debt they were obviously holding didn't they .. Why the U.S. National Debt Rose to $7.8 Trillion Under Trump MARKETREALIST.COM The national debt under former President Trump rose $7.8 trillion amid the tax cuts and spending. It was a crisis even before the COVID-19 pandemic. Worth a peruse Donald Trump’s Great Escape: How The Former President Solved His Debt Crisis WWW.FORBES.COM The 45th president was chained to money-losing real estate and drowning in debt when he left office. Now, magically, he is flush with cash and free...

Seemed clear to me for some time that the BBC costs/fees should be covered by the conservative party rather than the public. They may not be as one sided as GoBNews, or TwitTV, but just because (for example) Laura NewsBorg is a bit smoother than them, and a number of the others (even those who haven't resigned) try to be impartial despite pressure, doesn't mean she isn't biased toward her Con PoopMeisters BBC impartiality? - is a rather sick joke

No, its his education, intelligence, empathy and common decency .. Which you ARE clearly bereft of For info Just because they called themselves National Socialists or whatever doesn't mean they were or are .. rather like the claims of Stalin, Mao or Johnson - all just wannabe dictators - JUST some more successful than others. Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition So why dont we see you railing against real conspiracies @theoldrouge * Like Trumps claims about bleach * Like the Tories routing 100+ million to 'Moneys firms and that having to be exposed by journalists while the poops were denying anything was wrong * Like the Tories sending a Hercules to Turkey for (worthless) PPE they lied about ordering when journalists exposed the lack * like the uk GUV politically interfering in the BBC as if it were RT * like the UK guv implementing suppression of rights of protest * Like the UK guv putting laws into the hands of ministers rather than Parliament or the courts Lineker 10 BBC and @oldrouge -3 facism at DuckDuckGo DUCKDUCKGO.COM DuckDuckGo. Privacy, Simplified.

While we wait with growing clarity of how full of .. it certain right wing posters are The latest results: Gary Lineker: 10 The BBC: -2 (should be) Its understood that the BBC will be appointing an 'independent' review of the BBC's Oaths of unquestioning loyalty to whoever and whatever they say .. .. as soon as the poopulist guv has found someone willing to keep booting the populists chosen result into the long grass long enough for them to say many many times - that the 2 poopulist lackies should not be fired from the BBC overlordship while an investigation is in progress...

ROFL Cheered me up no end that you are upset about paying toward Linekers wages re GobNews: Given the massive fees and albeit rather limited platform given to right wing ministers to promote their own views and the simple fact that other than right wing sponsors are extremely limited one could be forgiven for thinking that GoBNews is just a way to route more funds and give a whistle to the CON artists from their few donors and promoters bypassing other limitations and requirements. So @oldrouge you haven't told us yet why you dont rail against much more obvious real conspiracies like * bleach as a covid treatment asmong other real issues * Blatantly OBVIOUS RT'esque Political interference in a public funded 'National broadcaster (which they are crapping themselves about LOL)

so then @theoldrougeyour support of free speech only reaches as far as supporting anti-vax liars rights to promote anti vax lies which are easily proven as lies or at VERY best disinformation, .. and you don't support free speech when its a REAL persons quite legitimately and honestly held and long time supported (by actions) views on a subject? I think that rather defines you and those like you. So, Given Lineker was quite conservative (in the traditional sense) in his statement, and it has been reported that Lineker had been told by the BBC that there would be no further action ... Which do people think occurred: 1. The poopulist guv intervened to pressure the BBC to censor Lineker in a rather Russia/Iran manner 2. The Tory pals shunted into positions of power in the BBC decided off their own backs to attempt to censor Lineker Given the reported prior decision by the BBC of 'no further action' .. gotta be the former hasn't it? and also given that "BBC Chair Richard Sharp is under pressure for failing to declare his involvement in facilitating a loan for former Prime Minister Boris Johnson shortly before he was appointed to the role. " Former BBC chief Greg Dyke warned on Saturday that "it looks like - the perception out there - that the BBC has bowed to government pressure" BBC Chief Refuses To Quit Despite Chaos Sparked By Lineker Removal WWW.IBTIMES.COM BBC chief refuses to quit despite chaos sparked by Lineker removal BBC ‘caving in to UK Government’ by taking Lineker off air, Humza Yousaf says WWW.STANDARD.CO.UK Mr Yousaf spoke out about the issue at an SNP leadership hustings in Glasgow.

"In a 19 November 2020 email to an associate, Mr Murdoch wrote that the “stupid and damaging” fraud claims had made Mr Trump “increasingly mad” and a “danger” as president. " "Rupert Murdoch thought Fox News hosts Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham went “too far” in backing Donald Trump’s election lies on the right-wing channel, bombshell new legal filings reveal. Mr Murdoch also said that he believed that the 2020 election was free and fair and not stolen from Mr Trump, documents reveal." "A defamation lawsuit is revealing scornful behind-the-scenes opinions by Fox News figures about Donald Trump, including a Tucker Carlson text message declaring “I hate him passionately.”" "Voting machine manufacturer Dominion Voting Systems is suing Fox News for $1.6 billion, claiming the network broadcast false claims that the company was responsible for fraud in the 2020 presidential election. The case is to go to trial this spring, and a trove of documents related to Fox's actions after the election are being publicly released in advance." Murdoch thought Fox hosts may have gone ‘too far’ in covering Trump’s election lies WWW.INDEPENDENT.CO.UK Fox Corp chairman also admitted the 2020 election was fair and not stolen from Mr Trump

Ah, some good news starting to be reported at last GB News records £30 million losses from a little over £3 million revenue "The broadcaster paid more than £11 million in wages (3x its income) and salaries to its staff during the year, many of who include Conservative MP’s who have been given platforms to present their own shows." Its directors were reportedly 'satisfied' with the above. Perhaps they are just trying to make the BBC look good eh? Effective way for them to get paid to put out 'opinion' that even Con Central wont allow. .

Seems its Tory Poopulist policy on everything - goals that way .. but kick the ball into the long grass or we'll lose Even this latest version of the withdrawal protocol is little different in real terms to Truss' apart from the backstop - and the backstop was only there in case the UK didn't implement the systems - we had some years on trus't (sic) where trade continued largely avoiding the situation we are now in and aside from Sunack getting it through parliament (almost a certainty) without imploding his party (thats the real question), sunck still has to implement the systems and NOT trash the oversight (the other real question) - which they clearly didn't believe they could - or even want to try with Truss' version. So the 2/3 cores of implementation are still ... nowhere.

Which is of course what they want - it keeps the dogs whistled without hang to actually deliver something which would put us in breach of most of the worlds human rights, let alone international law. Its all dog whistles while booting any resolutions good or bad into the long grass

I see Lineker has compared the UK guvernments small boat intentions to the Nazis pogroms of the 30s.. ... which as expected has quickly raised complaints and condemnation from a handful of Rottenführer, Anwärter and poopmeisters. The BBCs Oberjunker is understood to be checking Linekers antecedents and requiring him to understand his oaths of allegiance to the BB-Creed. " The BBC reported that while Lineker was not bound by the strict social media policies of BBC news and current affairs staff, the director general, Tim Davie, had discussed the issue of his comments in the past and it was understood he would be reminded of his responsibilities." BBC to talk to Gary Lineker over tweets on UK asylum plan and Nazi Germany | Gary Lineker | The Guardian WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM Match of the Day host under fire after he condemns ‘cruel’ and ‘beyond awful’ small boats policy

No but blatant misrepresenting or lying is - as they clearly did, .. and have even eventually been found to have done by a largely ineffective politically controlled 'regulator Anyone who actually simply read the referred detail could see that at the time, as is the case with most anri-vax lies So why has it taken the regulator so long to largely do nothing in this and so many cases? So @theoldrouge Why dont we see apparent conspiracy nuts railing against 'suggestions' of using bleach to 'cure' covid and other real issues - often reported from the same sources you quote so often? - or are you also just also misrepresenting/lying to suit an agenda and happy to let real issues pass?

No one has any issues whatsoever with any news service asking tough questions Mark Steyn’s programme did nothing of the sort and his misrepresentation and outright lies .. even the Tory ruled regulator couldn't avoid .. eventually and far far to late and Fox news and Murdoch is having to fight presenting lying crap in court

Evidence grows of human occupation of South America 20,000 years ago, and that the Iberian peninsula was the main source of the re-population of Europe after the ice age (as well as the southern Iberian tip currently being the last known habitat of Neanderthals) This should be considered with the maps earlier in the thread showing the now submerged land areas West of the current European and Iberian land mass - which would have been benefiting from the warming effects of the 'Gulf Stream' at the time. https://www.archaeology.org/issues/445-2111/features/10051-new-mexico-ice-age-footprints Ancient humans sat out ice age in Spain European hunter-gatherers holed up in what is now Spain to escape the last ice age, which covered large parts of the continent with glaciers for several millennia. Researchers analysed DNA from 356 individuals who lived in Europe and western Asia between 35,000 and 5,000 years ago. The humans who had sought out the warmer climate on the Iberian Peninsula repopulated Western Europe after the deep freeze ended. This explains how a genetic signature that first showed up in 35,000-year-old remains popped up again in populations tens of thousands of years later — a fact that had remained a mystery until now. Nature | 5 min read Read anthropobiologist Ludovic Orlando’s expert analysis of the discovery in the Nature News & Views article (7 min read, paywall) References: Nature paper & Nature Ecology & Evolution paper

So its only taken ofcom about 11 months to issue a decision on the blatantly dishonest and misleading information presented, during which crusial period the misinformation has been spread and spread. Which decision is buried away rather than GBnews being forced to issue headline retractions for 11 months at the start of all their news programs? Worse than Useless twits So how much are they being fined?

Every single 'ennoblement of Johnson or Truss' should be reversed/blocked

What for? Services to avoiding international covid restrictions by jumping from country to country in pursuit of a haircut? Services to the nation in showing how to NOT wear a mask What next? His dog for services to p*ssing all over 10 downing street and masking the smell of booze and puke

Another British success story .. taking itself and its profits abroad "(Reuters) -- British chip technology company Arm, owned by Japanese conglomerate SoftBank Group, said on Friday it will pursue a U.S.-only listing this year, ending speculation about a primary or a secondary listing in the U.K. Arm is the world's biggest supplier of chip design elements used in smartphones, selling intellectual property to companies such as Apple and Qualcomm." SoftBank's Arm rebuffs London by choosing U.S. listing WWW.REUTERS.COM Arm, the chip designer owned by Japan's SoftBank , said on Friday it would pursue a U.S.-only listing this year, dashing the British government's... Chip firm Arm rebuffs London as it seeks US stock market listing WWW.DAILYECHO.CO.UK In January, Rishi Sunak reportedly restarted talks with Softbank to persuade it to list the Cambridge-based computer chip maker in London.

and experiments have shown that UK consumers are extremely cant or are extremely reluctant to pay more for farmer friendly milk - not that the 'experiments' were applied well. eg Farmers milk Implemented as Pay more over the 'normal' price than the farmers got - so supermarkets profited from it - rather than the customer pays a bit more and the supermarket pays some more on top out of the profits

its perhaps worth considering that the Brexit hard right 'argument' of the UK not needing farming - depended on cheap and simple imports of food and labour from the EU and they then proceeded to shaft both sides of the argument ... oops

So, if Johnson is found to have lied about Partys, Lied in Parliament and hence demeaned and disgraced the office of PM, will all those hes shunted into the Lords be de-enobeled? Truss also should have any of her plans for shunting pals into the lords squashed. That should reduce the numbers enough to remove an urgent need to get rid of the Lords entirely, if not a need to trim the useless fat

Market research company Kantar reported on Tuesday that grocery prices in Britain in the four weeks to Feb. 19 were a record 17.1% higher than a year earlier.

Makes you wonder about the sewage overflows - is effluent all that all thats there in some areas? Water Con-panies will be charging for the sewage poured into riverbeds next - oops of course, they already are England’s driest February in 30 years, says Met Office WWW.INDEPENDENT.CO.UK East Anglia, Devon, Cornwall and the Isles of Scilly remain in drought conditions with less than half the average rain falling across the UK.