University of Leeds (Hospital) ANPR PCN -

[Nicky Boy]

You may well be better off writing to PALS rather than any appeal to the fleecers. (They're just money grabbers and won't be interested)

 

When you say the keeper can't drive any more, what exactly do you mean?

Have they officially been stopped from driving because of their medical condition?

Edited July 17, 2023 by Nicky Boy

[Nicky Boy]

Strange one this.

It appears that, as mentioned above, LPS are the PPC.

Yet paying the charge / appealing appears to have the University as the contact point?

 

Any thoughts on who to contact guys?

My thoughts would be still to try PALS...

https://www.leedsth.nhs.uk/patients-visitors/patient-and-visitor-information/patient-experience/patient-advice-and-liaison-service-pals-and-complaints/

[Nicky Boy]

Agree with Dave's suggested course of action,  although I'm not as pessimistic over the outcome. Another recent thread brought up a government policy about this very scenario, making it clear that leniency should be implemented. 

[Nicky Boy]

Chimi,

Might be an idea to quote the relevant section from the government guidance in your letter...

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NHS car parking guidance 2022 for NHS trusts and NHS foundation trusts - GOV.UK

WWW.GOV.UK

 

[Nicky Boy]

Looks good to me.

Cross fingers...

[Nicky Boy]

IPC membership list contains about 4 or 5 Universities...

Edited July 18, 2023 by Nicky Boy
ytpo Duh!

[Nicky Boy]

Dave was right to be pessimistic then. Hats off sir.

ALL PPC's are money grabbing... can't say the word!

Universities will be strapped for cash soon with possible upcoming changes in rules for foreign students, so they're probably grabbing whatever they can.

 

So, in your first post you said the car was parked in Leeds University / Hospital grounds.

So is there part of the car park designated as Hospital grounds?

 

In any case, if you're up for it, you can get into a fight with them.

Personally, I think you're onto a winner, because of the circumstances.

The registered keeper has a fully documented medical condition and could not have been driving the vehicle.

They don't know who the driver was and have absolutely no way of finding out.

There was a disabled badge following all normal rules for parking (on yellow lines).

Plus everything LFI comes up with for their paperwork.

Edited July 19, 2023 by Nicky Boy

[Nicky Boy]

The bottom line is that if they take it to court, the only person they could possibly claim against is someone with a proven medical condition who was unable to even drive.

Sounds like a slam-dunk to me.

[Nicky Boy]

Yes, exactly the sort of story the media likes... Harassment and intimidation of disabled vicims.

[Nicky Boy]

Also, it's maybe not such a good idea to let them know that you know.

Just in case they're dumb enough to try court.

I dunno... A university acting dumb!

[Nicky Boy]

Why not make a counter offer... Say £1.50?

Could get a dialogue going

 

If they come back with £10, drop your offer to £1...

[Nicky Boy]

Again,

I'd be tempted to be a little more simple, but vague.

If you're absolutely positive that the vehicle was parked on council owned property...

Just point out that they have no power to issue parking charge notices to vehicles parked on a public road. (No more than that, don't name the road, just leave them guessing).

Also, as you have already pointed out, the Registered Keeper has a medical condition which prevents them from driving, so was defintely not driving the vehicle at the time. Unfortunately, due to his condition, he is also unable to name one of several possible drivers.

If they now insist taking recovery or legal action, in full knowledge of the above, they would be in breach of the data protection act.

You would certainly consider a claim in this regard and compensation for such claims have been known to run into thousands of pounds.

 

Wait for comment from other regulars.

[Nicky Boy]

POFA Schedule 4 doesn't apply to parking on public roads.

However, you could vaguely mention that POFA has not been complied with and adherence to POFA is a requirement of their own Code of Practice, which must be complied with to enable them to obtain your details from DVLA.

As they haven't followed their own COP, it also amounts to breach of GDPR.

Double whammy.

 

Any other comments guys?

[Nicky Boy]

Idiots.

Same as regular PPC's

[Nicky Boy]

Not harsh at all..

They couldn't expect anything politer. (Is that a word? I think not).

[Nicky Boy]

Starting to look like we need to treat the university the same was as lll other PPC charlatans.

Looks like to OP has ample ammunition for a court case.

Revert to usual tactics of ignoring until letter of claim?

[Nicky Boy]

Letter looks good... Succinct!