UAE ADCB Bank/Moriarty Law PAP LOC Received

[uaenomore]

very interesting thread,

amongst the others,

 

could someone however please clarify the advice regarding contacting these people?

 

Some say ignore completely, others say it is best to contact and ask them for English copies of everything.

 

Which is best in these cases?

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[ericsbrother]

to precis,

UK law applies in the UK so dont invite trouble by contacting anyone if the debt is SB in the UK.

Also, dont go on holiday to the UAE or you will be under their jurisdiction.

 

Threatening letters are just that, threats.

The DCA's dont have what is called locus standi.

Yes, solicitors can act on their clients behalf but a client trying to enforce an overseas law will get absolutely nowhere and a contract under UAE law isnt enforceable anywhere else in the world.

 

If you have just left the UAE with big bebts they may well want to try and get something out of you so if the agreements you signed were under English law (can happen if both parties agree to it and there is some link to the UK)

 

then they can use the courts system here to enforce any part of that agreement that is lawful but the chances are that agreement would run counter to UAE law so they wont be doing that anyway

( shipping contracts are the usual exception so if your debts are about a tanke your chartered then you may be introuble)

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[unclebulgaria67]

The advice about no contact and asking for documents in English depends on what stage people are at.

 

If it is just Debt Collection letters and no intent to issue a UK court claim, then there is no need to respond.

 

However, if a UK Solicitors is writing saying that they represent x UAE Bank and the UAE Bank have instructed them to issue a UK court if necessary, then it would be sensible to write requesting documents in English.

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[uaenomore]

Hi All

 

Been reading the other threads about this issue but creating my own as that seems to be the general advice.

 

I’ve had two come from Moriarty recently (within 30 days) one for a CC and one for a Loan.

 

Exact same letters as others have received, just different amounts, account number and dates of course.

 

I have drafted a PAP response using the links you provided and only completed the following:

 

• [removed - dx]

 

Is this the right form of response? I will send to them via recorded delivery and keep copies for myself.

 

I was holding off as I know @dx100uk had said that a response for everyone to use was in the works - should I still hold off or at least send the PAP response initially?

 

Thanks for all of your hard work on things like this!

 

[Chipz]

Hey @uaenomore, 

 

Im doing exactly the same atm, so thanks for this list, if confirmed correct I will follow it. 

 

One thing I seem to remember reading is to not sign it but print your name instead, something about less reputable companies lifting your sig 

 

Also interested in if @dx100uk has a stock response that will be ready in time for me (I have to reply by Tuesday as sat on it for far to long!)

 

Best of luck 

[dx100uk]

PLEASE DO NOT FOLLOW POST 1!!

 

more soon.

 

 

[Chipz]

@dx100uk roger wilco skip

[dx100uk]

follow post 5

 

 

[dx100uk]

squaddyp docs are here now

 

 

[uaenomore]

What does this mean for the rest of us?

Does it change anything at all?

[Andyorch]

Have a read over on Squaddyp thread.....saves repeating myself.

[Monty Putron]

I posted my own thread guys

 

 

[uaenomore]

On 30/08/2019 at 02:03, dx100uk said:

follow post 5

 

 

 

Followed this and sent off the PAP responses, now a waiting game to see what comes next!

Thanks again for everyones help.

[uaenomore]

Both PAP forms received and signed for. Is it now 30 days they have to respond?

 

Has anyone else received anything yet since returning the PAP response?

[Monty Putron]

You say both, you had two?

[uaenomore]

Yes two in total, one not long followed the other. Both ADCB, one credit card and one loan.

[uaenomore]

Still no further comms.  Has anyone had anything since sending back the PAP?

 

@dx100uk have you heard anything further from anyone else? If they don't respond to the PAP how much of a win is that for us? Or does it not really matter in the grand scheme of things?

[dx100uk]

you can read the threads here as well as I can..

[uaenomore]

I can, but you said before you had a few irons in the fire with contacts, so just wondered if anyone had provided any further info as to how this lot are likely to play.

[dx100uk]

just type no need to hit quote..

 

moriarty don't ever attend court 

[uaenomore]

it is exactly as you have said in other threads, they are scare mongering.  

Hoping that some of those receiving their mass mails are scared enough to cough up!

 

Is there a time limit for them to respond to the returned PAP form?  

Or is the limit only on the people receiving the original PAP to respond?

[Andyorch]

Yes they also have 30 days to comply before considering litigation

[uaenomore]

Thanks for confirming @Andyorch much appreciated

[uaenomore]

Letter received today stating the same as someone mentioned in another thread. Referred matter to client and will contact again on receipt of further instruction. Account will remain on hold in the meantime and any collection activity suspended.

 

Over to you ADCB!

[uaenomore]

Nothing else since the they went back to their client.

 

@Andyorch when you said  "Yes they also have 30 days to comply before considering litigation" does this now mean they cannot proceed as these 30 days have long passed?  Or does the fact they went back to ask for more info buy them more time'?