Wonder if bailiffs are involved yet?

[ploddertom]

Sent to me earlier today.

 

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/gateshead-motorist-racks-up-55000-11127527

 

Also

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/watch-moment-fenham-two-drivers-11126935

[Bailiff Advice]

Sent to me earlier today.

 

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/gateshead-motorist-racks-up-55000-11127527

 

A short extract from the article:

 

A Gateshead motorist may be the worst parker in Britain - after racking up more than 600 tickets.

 

Figures obtained through a Freedom of Information request have revealed that a vehicle in Gateshead has received 653 parking tickets- owing Gateshead Council more than £55,000 in fines.

 

Another vehicle in the area has been given 283 parking tickets, with £23,985 owed in fines relating to the vehicle.

 

It was followed by one in Newcastle that has been ticketed 272 times, owing £16,454 in fines.

 

I little known fact is that a motorist is considered a 'Persistent Evader' if he has 'three or more' unpaid penalty charge notices and there are specific regulations that apply to such cases and most importantly, the obligation to remove the vehicle. Many people have been caught by this regulation (in particular in London).

 

The vast majority of 'Persistent Evaders' have vehicles that are worth just a couple of hundred pound and they could not care less if it was taken.

[Fair-Parking]

'Persistent evader?' A wonderful term that immediately places the accused into a position of 'offender' but which in reality has no meaning whatsoever.

 

Persistent evader of what? Three or more accusations of alleged contraventions all based on a presumption of guilt?

 

To those reading - you all owe me £10 - because i say so.

 

Proof? How imperious of you to ask as my accusation is quite enough in law. Ignore me three times and you automatically become a persistent evader of nothing more than an unproven accusation, however the law is with me

 

Perhaps we should stand up to that.

[neil_tp]

A short extract from the article:

 

A Gateshead motorist may be the worst parker in Britain - after racking up more than 600 tickets.

 

Figures obtained through a Freedom of Information request have revealed that a vehicle in Gateshead has received 653 parking tickets- owing Gateshead Council more than £55,000 in fines.

 

Another vehicle in the area has been given 283 parking tickets, with £23,985 owed in fines relating to the vehicle.

 

Its was followed by one in Newcastle that has been ticketed 272 times, owing £16,454 in fines.

 

I little known fact is that a motorist is considered a 'Persistent Evader' if he has 'three or more' unpaid penalty charge notices and there are specific regulations that apply to such cases and most importantly, the obligation to remove the vehicle. Many people have been caught by this regulation (in particular in London).

 

The vast majority of 'Persistent Evaders' have vehicles that are worth just a couple of hundred pound and they could not care less if it was taken.

 

 

 

Can you point out the "specific regulations" that apply, I would be very interested to read them?

[Peterbard]

Can you point out the "specific regulations" that apply, I would be very interested to read them?

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/496987/operational-guidance.pdf

 

8.116 When parked in contravention, a persistent evader’s vehicle should be

subject to the strongest possible enforcement following the issue of the

PCN and confirmation of persistent evader status. This is likely to

involve immobilisation or removal.

 

Not having a very good day are you pote

[neil_tp]

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/496987/operational-guidance.pdf

 

8.116 When parked in contravention, a persistent evader’s vehicle should be

subject to the strongest possible enforcement following the issue of the

PCN and confirmation of persistent evader status. This is likely to

involve immobilisation or removal.

 

Not having a very good day are you pote

 

I think the clue was in the word guidance! Fair parking has understood it.

[Peterbard]

i think the clue is government guidance.

[neil_tp]

So not regulations then, I rest my case.

[Peterbard]

Well looking around i think the measure is included in a few by-laws, but what's in a name.

The fact is that this measure is available to the authority under these circumstances, this kind of trivia is really only of interest to people like you who are trying to score some kind of point. Certainly not worth further comment from me.

[ploddertom]

For London Councils

 

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/2008/3/part/5/enacted

 

Reference made in 16

[Peterbard]

For London Councils

 

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/2008/3/part/5/enacted

 

Reference made in 16

 

Oh yes and that seems to be an Act no less

[neil_tp]

That's London, not anywhere else. Can't you stay on topic?.

[Peterbard]

i think the clue is government guidance.

 

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/18/section/18

 

18Guidance to local traffic authorities

 

(1)The appropriate national authority may publish guidance to local traffic authorities about the techniques of network management or any other matter relating to the performance of the duties imposed by sections 16 and 17.

 

(2)In performing those duties a local traffic authority shall have regard to any such guidance.

[neil_tp]

Not mandatory and the word "May" is used so doesn't have to be followed.

Edited April 5, 2016 by Andyorch
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[Peterbard]

Not mandatory and the word "May" is used so doesn't have to be followed.

 

 

 

(2)In performing those duties a local traffic authority shall have regard to any such guidance

 

THe word "may" refers to the guidence being produced. It has.

Edited April 5, 2016 by Andyorch
edited

[doggone it]

TMA 2004 Section 79-1-b-ii makes reference to release of vehicle on payment of earlier penalties.

[Fair-Parking]

When did we pass a law in this country that allows an allegation to bypass 800 years of statutes have the same status as a case proven in before a judge in a judicial court ?

[neil_tp]

(2)In performing those duties a local traffic authority shall have regard to any such guidance

 

THe word "may" refers to the guidence being produced. It has.

 

 

When did most councils worry about "Government Guidance" its about revenue mostly and what they can get away with.

Edited April 5, 2016 by Andyorch
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[Peterbard]

TMA 2004 Section 79-1-b-ii makes reference to release of vehicle on payment of earlier penalties.

 

Yes thanks doggone, i hadn't noticed that.

[Peterbard]

When did most councils worry about "Government Guidance" its about revenue mostly and what they can get away with.

 

The quote was from the TMA, statute ???