Collectica - sorn - not my bike now

[mrk1]

I have received 2 letters from COLLECTICA who say i need to pay £80 because i have not SORNd my motorbike which i sold 3 years ago.

 

I have tried to say I don't even know the buyer now or have his details.

 

I am saving for a new business and £80 on this is not happening.

 

I had a brief email back saying 'we don't care if it not your bike you need to pay' (along those lines).

 

Guys what can i do.

[dx100uk]

are they acting as bailiffs here or debt collectors?

important diff!!

 

dx

[mrk1]

This last letter says something like:

 

It has come to our attention your case is about to be allocated to our enforcement department which MAY result in you incurring additional costs when our enforcement officers commence procedures against you.........

 

ETC ETC...

 

Ha... they are so whiffy whaffy with these words!!

 

What am i to think of this.... i mean i don't even know the guy who has the bike, and they have emailed back saying 'we don't care if you know him or not, pay the bill now' sorta vibe.

 

Seriously do i just keep paying the SORN every year for the rest of my life... NO way.... I'm trying to clean my score up

 

I hate how they can 'just sell it on to a debt collection agency '

 

IDEAS GUYS?

[renegadeimp]

They're DCA's chancing their luck. Send them the prove it letter.

[dx100uk]

This last letter says something like:

 

It has come to our attention your case is about to be allocated to our enforcement department which MAY result in you incurring additional costs when our enforcement officers commence procedures against you.........

 

ETC ETC...

 

Ha... they are so whiffy whaffy with these words!!

 

What am i to think of this.... i mean i don't even know the guy who has the bike, and they have emailed back saying 'we don't care if you know him or not, pay the bill now' sorta vibe.

 

Seriously do i just keep paying the SORN every year for the rest of my life... NO way.... I'm trying to clean my score up

 

I hate how they can 'just sell it on to a debt collection agency '

 

IDEAS GUYS?

 

tone it down a bit

 

no need for the comments I've removed.

 

certainly a bailiff co would not be writing if's and maybe's

 

and not a chain of threat-o-grams either.

 

so this has to be thir DCA wing.

 

safe to ignore

though, it wouldn't hurt to ring the dvla and findout what they think has happened

 

also they cant trash your cra on this either so safe there too

 

poss no new keeper was reg'd.

did you not send off your tear-off bit

/

 

dx

[sgtbush]

They're DCA's chancing their luck. Send them the prove it letter.

 

no they are not dca

 

it will be a magistrates court fine that the courts have given perrmission by way of a warrant of distress to enforce

[sgtbush]

tone it down a bit

 

no need for the comments I've removed.

 

certainly a bailiff co would not be writing if's and maybe's

 

and not a chain of threat-o-grams either.

 

so this has to be thir DCA wing.

 

safe to ignore bad advice im afraid, never ignor letters like this

though, it wouldn't hurt to ring the dvla and findout what they think has happened

 

also they cant trash your cra on this either so safe there too

 

poss no new keeper was reg'd.

did you not send off your tear-off bit

/

 

dx

 

to the op.

 

please write down word for word what the letter states.

Edited June 2, 2013 by sgtbush

[dx100uk]

scan up the letter.

 

we've seen this before, them trying to pull this trick.

 

collectica have two firms

one is a dca

 

the other are bailiffs.

 

they are intimating they can get the bailiffs involved, when in fact its not been to court.

 

just they have found by looking at records there's no valid sorn on it.

 

we'll see

 

here how to scan stuff:

 

set your default scan page size to A4 less than 300DPI [150 will do]

scan the required letters/agreements/sheets - as a picture[jpg] file

don't forget you can use a mobile phone or a digital camera too!!

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BUT......

ENSURE: remove all pers info inc. barcodes etc using paint program

but leave all monetary figures and dates.

*********************************************************

{DO NOT USE A BIRO OR PEN OR USE SEE THRU TAPE OR LABELS]

try www.pdfescape.com TO BLANK STUFF,

*************************************************************

or

DO IT IN MSPAINT.EXE or any photo editing program

goto one of the many free online pdf converter websites ...

http://freejpgtopdf.com/

..

if you have multiple scans/pics

put them in a word doc FIRST and convert that to PDF

or use www.pdfmerge.com

 

convert existing PC files to PDF [office has an installable print to PDF option]

..

 

it would be better to upload a multipage pdf if

you have many images too rather than many single pdfs

.

or if you have PDF as an installed printer drive use that

or use word and save as pdf

try and logically name your file so people know what it is.

though dont use full bank names or CAG in the title

i'e Default notice dd-mm-yyyy TSB

.

open a new msg box here

hit go advanced below the msg box

hit manage attachments below that box

hit the add files button on the top right

hit select files, navigate to your file on your pc

hit upload files

.

dx

[Raykay]

no they are not dca

 

it will be a magistrates court fine that the courts have given perrmission by way of a warrant of distress to enforce

 

£80 is the usual claim for the Late Licensing Penalty - s.7A Vehicles Excise & Registration Act 1994. A civil debt, nothing to do with magistrates or distress warrants.

Edited June 2, 2013 by Raykay

[mrk1]

Hi guys, thanks for the advice.

 

I don't have ability to scan right now. What am i to do here.

 

I definitely do not have any contact with the guy i sold it to, and I am sure i posted the tear off to the DVLA. What was someone saying about the fact that the dvl a needed a recorded delivery system?

 

i have received another letter here. dated 10th june stating:

 

YOU SHOULD READ THIS LETTER CAREFULLY - COURT PROCEEDINGS MAY NOW COMMENCE

 

Despite previous correspondance to your premises it would appear that you have no intention of repaying the amounts which remain outstanding to theca above named client. several avenues have now become available to us to clear your arrears.

 

. county court summons/judgment being made against you

 

statutory demand against yourself

charging order

attachment of earnings benefit

bankruptcy petition

 

court action is expensive and as a result....... (blah blah)

 

----------------------

 

So there is the last letter.

 

what you guys think...

 

i can't call any 0870 or 0844 numbers too much money.. what can i do..

 

i really don't want my credit score affected more than it is...

 

 

what are my options????

 

thank you in advance..

[renegadeimp]

Threat letter. COllectica are acting as DCA's here. They couldnt care less about the truth. Get in touch direct with the DVLA and tell them that you dont own the bike, and get them to call off the DCA. However, if you have proof you dont own the bike, then should they take you to court, the bad publicity would have an effect on them.

[Tony P]

As it was sold 3 years ago you should have received a couple of Tax/SORN reminders if DVLA believed you were still the RK.

Did you?

[mrk1]

Threat letter. COllectica are acting as DCA's here. They couldnt care less about the truth. Get in touch direct with the DVLA and tell them that you dont own the bike, and get them to call off the DCA. However, if you have proof you dont own the bike, then should they take you to court, the bad publicity would have an effect on them.

 

Do you think DVLA will listen so easily?? Anyone got a none 0845 or 0844 number to call them??

 

As it was sold 3 years ago you should have received a couple of Tax/SORN reminders if DVLA believed you were still the RK.

Did you?

 

I have moved house a bit so no letters no. I should have thought but i didn't..

 

Whats my next move you think???

 

Should i worry about court action or my credit score??

[renegadeimp]

They might not listen but you must get a full paper trail going. Write to them. Dont call unless you can record the call in full.

[mrk1]

I emailed the dvl a and they said something like 'it doesn't matter if you don't own the bike now, you still have to pay'

 

What kind of thinking is this??

[Raykay]

Their claim will be that you were the registered registerd keeper at the time, although you may no longer be the owner.

It is the registered keeper that is liable for the Late Licensing Penalty.

[mrk1]

OK I know that... If I am the registered keeper - but I'm not the what do I do??

[Raykay]

If you haven't informed DVLA that you disposed of the bike, you may still be the registered keeper and that is why they are claiming.