Legal obligation to supply information

[Ford]

I have just received a letter which states that it is a summons. It is on headed local authority paper with no date and asking me to appear before the magistrates sitting on a date that has already passed. I am now working on a time machine..

 

did you previously ask them for info re the LO? maybe they have sent this in response, ie a template 'copy' of what was (or should've been) sent prior to the hearing. is the date of the letter current or past? did you get one these prior to the hearing date?

as ssxxxxx said post, seems there is no actual copy LO, and they just send out there enforcement options once liability is 'rubber stamped' by the mags.

Edited February 5, 2013 by Ford

[45002]

Found the date at the foot of the letter. The letter also refers me to the important information overleaf as this may avoid the need to attend the court(on the day that has already passed.) On turning the page over it was blank. What do I do now?

 

Was the date you should have attended court when you where on Holiday

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?376701-Court-for-rent-arrears.&p=4085898&viewfull=1#post4085898

 

but I guess you already knew the date in advance anyway !

[Consumer dude]

I await the reasonable request for a copy of the liability order..

[Ford]

did you get a summons prior to the hearing?

[45002]

did you get a summons prior to the hearing?

 

Have a read of this thread which makes interesting reading and replies the from OP http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?376701-Court-for-rent-arrears.&p=4085292&viewfull=1#post4085292

Edited February 9, 2013 by 45002

[Ford]

Have a read of this thread which makes interesting reading and replies from OP http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?376701-Court-for-rent-arrears.&p=4085292&viewfull=1#post4085292

 

oh ok! thanks, yes that explains things! looks like then the answer is 'yes'! and OP had said here post #7 'wasn't aware of a summons'!

Edited February 10, 2013 by Ford

[Consumer dude]

Is someone confused over different threads on different subjects ?

[45002]

Is someone confused over different threads on different subjects ?

 

Don't worry

 

Where not confused

[Ford]

Is someone confused over different threads on different subjects ?

 

no, not really. one point being you have had prior arrears/summons info re other council matters, so likely to have here, particularly re nature of your (non)answers/posts.

Edited February 12, 2013 by Ford

[Consumer dude]

Had sent letter off to Executive dept of local authority. They have received the letter. Waiting for reply..

[45002]

Its all very strange..

 

Had sent letter off to Executive dept of local authority. They have received the letter. Waiting for reply..

 

So what are you writing to LA about now !

Edited February 14, 2013 by 45002

[Consumer dude]

A simple request from my local authority for a copy of a council tax liability order to date has not produced one. Is there any reason why this may be the case ?

Edited February 20, 2013 by Consumer dude

[Consumer dude]

Title should read. Is it reasonable to expect a copy of a council tax liability order. Had trouble editing the title Can anyone advise..

[Consumer dude]

Does anyone else have a clue what's going on. Another day in the mad house that is corporate UK..

[Consumer dude]

Just spoke to council. Formal complaint is being dealt with..

[Consumer dude]

Double post..

[ims21]

Two threads on the same subject merged

[Ford]

Two threads on the same subject merged

[Ford]

A simple request from my local authority for a copy of a council tax liability order to date has not produced one. Is there any reason why this may be the case ?

 

see #15 etc for eg

Edited February 20, 2013 by Ford

[Consumer dude]

see #15 etc for eg

 

Thanks for that. I don't understand that. What have they got to hide by not sending a copy. I just need to check that the court had issued it..

[Ford]

they prob would've 'issued' it.

according to this (found re a googly ) there doesn't seem to be an actual hard copy 'as a piece of paper'

http://www.newstruth.co.uk/what-is-a-liability-order-how-to-deal-with-them/

Edited February 22, 2013 by Ford

[45002]

No surprise at theses question's !

 

If u have paid in full. I would ignore it but expect wasted letters sent to you from now onwards.

 

Councils appear to be making things up as they go along..

 

Read up on the other threads on this issue. Save all paper work. You are in for a barmy time..

 

what part of the country you in..

 

What does the summons say and are there costs added..

 

That may actually work..

 

From

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?383167-Council-taking-us-to-court-when-council-tax-paid-in-full&p=4150060&viewfull=1#post4150060

Edited February 22, 2013 by 45002

[45002]

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?382880-Council-obtaining-illegal-Liability-orders&p=4159587#post4159587

 

The wording of the latest letter I have received from the council states the following. At council tax hearings, liability orders ate applied for and granted for in bulk, as per a list provided by the council. Therefore there is not a copy of an order specifically relating to you, which I can send. That's interesting. Liability orders are granted in bulk, yet charge each individual £95.00 in court costs. Sounds a good racket to Me..

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Edited March 2, 2013 by 45002

[Consumer dude]

According to my local authority, there is an outstanding amount of council tax from 2002/2003. Is this amount actually enforceable after all this time ?

[assisted blonde]

Did they get a liability order? if they did then it will stay in force and the debt will not become statute barred, a council has 6 years to apply for one normally and most Councils do get a liability order well before this time (The rules are different in scotland)