daughters RLP letter 15+16yrs old - help

[Shakilla]

What should I say when they call again?

[MARTIN3030]

Tell them you do not wish to discuss this by phone and a letter has been sent to this effect (It needs to be done)

If you have any possibility to record their calls-then do so.

It is very likely that they will be saying you have breached the agreement and this is very serious etc etc.

All scare tactics.

They may try to say that by accepting their agreement and making a payment,that this is an admission of liability.

There is case laws to address this -specifically that you made the payment under mistaken belief that there was a liability.

[Shakilla]

Okay, thanks sooo much!

[Shakilla]

Hey everyone, so today I just back from college and found a letter from RLP, it sounds very threatening

[Shakilla]

they also know that I've been posting on here

[ScarletPimpernel]

Of course they do - they have form for it. It says a lot about the company that the directors can spend time scouring these forums and then try to use what people have written to threaten them. Pathetic, bullying behaviour and exactly what we've come to expect from RLP.

 

Do share their latest epistle with us. I'm going to make a prediction, and say it's long, circumloquacious and tedious, and full of pish and wind.

[Shakilla]

I shall upload a copy of the letter up here

[Shakilla]

http://postimage.org/image/w5jvnbvgx/

 

 

Here it is hopefully without any private information

Edited December 14, 2012 by Shakilla
picture was too small

[ims21]

You need to convert it to PDF format.

 

User this method

 

Dx100 – Instructions on uploading pdfs

 

scan the required letters/agreements/sheets

as a picture file

remove all pers info inc barcodes etc using paint

but leave all figures and dates.

goto one of the many free online pdf converter websites

convert the image to pdf format.

or ir you have PDF as an installed printer drive use that

open a new msg box here

hit go advanced below the msg box

hit manage attachments below that box

hit the add files button on the top right

hit select files, navigate to your file on your pc

hit upload files

NB:you can set where it goes in the post by hitting insert inline.

the hit reply button

[Shakilla]

Yes thank you I will do that right now

 

I just realised the letter it came in is completely different this time. It has a 2nd class stamp and delivered by Royal Mail

[Shakilla]

[ATTACH]39985[/ATTACH]

 

Did I do it right?

[havinastella]

Yes

[ScarletPimpernel]

Well, there you are - I was wrong about part of the letter. The latest letter is not long - but it is tedious and it is full of pish and wind.

 

We said at the beginning that your mother making a payment was likely to cause a problem, and it has - but not an insurmountable one. It seems to me that this payment was made under duress, on the back of one of RLP's letters - these letters, remember, are part of what the Law Commission called the 'oppressive and aggressive' methods used in civil recovery. However, it is clear that no formal agreement was made - because RLP sent out an agreement, using Primark's letterhead. We've looked at the agreement in detail before, and leaving aside the fact that RLP sent the wrong agreement and then sent another, it was never signed and returned. To me, it seems obvious that this means that there is no agreement. People can change their minds, especially after seeking advice or simply reading the document and deciding that they could not agree to the terms.

 

As for you answering RLP's calls and pretending to be your mother - so what? It's not an offence, unless it's done dishonestly. The party demanding money is RLP, but no-one in this case owes RLP anything at all, so where could there be any sort of dishonesty? I wonder if RLP have noticed the irony in accusing you of pretending to be someone else, when they send out documentation that is clearly from them but purports to be from Primark? Perhaps you were just acting as your mother's agent. Finally, it begs the question that if RLP suspected or knew they weren't talking to the correct person, why did they continue with the calls?

 

What someone publishes on the internet is a matter for them. It's simply not RLP's business. We know why they like to go on about it - because they dislike criticism of their morally repugnant business. We've seen their feeble attempts to stifle those who speak out against them - indeed, we've been the target of some of them, such as the spectacular own goal scored by Schillings on RLP's behalf. RLP may not like it when people express an opinion about what they do, but it's tough. I'd be interested to know what 'further wrongdoing' Shakila's sister has been encouraged to commit, but I suspect it's a figment of La Lambert's imagination, simply added to give weight to what is really no more than a begging letter. RLP giving advice to parents? I'd sooner trust Josef Fritzl.

 

There can be no administration charges because there is no agreement.

 

The simple fact is that RLP have no power whatsoever; there was police involvement and it was determined that no further action should be taken. Since that was the decision of the proper authorities for dealing with these matters, there can be no place for pseudo-legal firms like RLP demanding money, especially the way RLP go about it.

 

Bullying is invariably a sign of an inadequate character; someone who believes that they are much more important than they really are; someone who thinks they are invincible and can do what they wish without thinking about the effect on others; someone who hates it when others stand up to them, or criticise their aberrant behaviour. All of these ingredients are there in RLP's letters, with a large supply of greed added for good measure. This, I suspect, is why RLP are at such pains to persecute anyone who seeks advice on how to deal with a speculative invoice, whether it be from a web forum or the CAB.

 

In any case, as with all bullying, giving in is the worst thing that can be done. My opinion is that this latest pathetic nonsense should be ignored.

[Shakilla]

Thank you sooooo much to every one who has helped me I cannot begin to explain how much of a stress-reliever CAG has been

thank you for the non-stop support and sorry for being a hassle

 

I will carry on ignoring the letters and hopefully it should go away

[andydd]

Yet another strange letter, clearly there is no legally binding agreement to carrying on paying instalments and it appears to me that a person is free to stop such paymenmts, I do not believe RLP's talk of extra admin fees and I agree with earler posts that it would appear to be creating a debt (and risk of further charges) where there simply is no debt.

 

Now why oh why do RLP continually mention internet forums ?, as a so called professional company why do they employ people to trawl consumer forums and even on occasion pretend to be someone else ?. I find it rather dubious.

 

As for encouraging people to commit further wrong doing, what is meant by this ?, it is certanly not wrong to give people advice,and I believe the advice given here and other forums does not differ from advice given out by CAB or a solicitor, the advice being that RLP's claim for damages simply has no legal basis and therefore there is no obligation to pay, a viewpoint upheld by the Judge in Oxford.

 

We do not condone shoplifting on here and I suggest that by discussing such issues we are actually making potential shoplifters aware that there is a very real chance of getting caught and facing criminal prosecutions and the risks of it ruining future job prospects, foreign travel, etc.

 

Andy

[MARTIN3030]

Advised to commit further wrongdoing ?

[Shakilla]

They are trying to make it out as if CAG is giving out wrong information

[ims21]

They are trying to make it out as if CAG is giving out wrong information

 

Well they would wouldn't they?

[Shakilla]

What shall I do? Keep on ignoring them? I was wondering if what had happened that day come up on my sisters CRB?

[ims21]

You need to take note of what has been said in this thread already...its all there for you.....ignore.

 

It will not be on a CRB.

[Shakilla]

Thank you

[MARTIN3030]

Seasons Greetings ut totus RLP subcriptio members.May vestri novus Matrix supervenio in vicis pro Sarcalogos

[old bill]

What's that in English, something suitably rude? Lol!

[Shakilla]

Hey I got another letter from RLP saying that If I dont pay then they will hold the case till my sister is 18

[renegadeimp]

Thats a blatant scare tactic. They wont do anything.