bos

[ims]

cctv, just a quick one, nine regions not giving BOS and trading standards cant fit me in until monday! any advice cheers mate

[cctv engineer]

cctv, just a quick one, nine regions not giving BOS and trading standards cant fit me in until monday! any advice cheers mate

 

 

i think that is a problem with me posting the thread about bos. they have been watching the site. but it shows just how many are going to be void.

 

 

your best way is to see a solicitor. for them to right a letter to lbl is around £25. and they must reply to your solicitors letter. if not get the same solicitor to send a letter to the car auction were your car is demanding its return as there is no bos attached.

[cctv engineer]

ims. i have just had another idea. to find out names of solicitors on a bos front page.

 

on the bottom of bos you will see a IP address please list it here.

 

if anyone has this IP please say so

217.40.156.25:8100

[hoff135]

Im still waiting for a reply from the supreme court about my bos, can i ask again that if my bos was made out on a tuesday, and it is stamped on a wednesday of the next week, (8 days) that this is completely void?

I have written the suprerme court to confirm this.

[applecart]

CCTV; your thread has knocked me right off my chair!!!! : )

 

The 'solicitor' in my mind; was the person that LBL could have relied upon as their 'credible witness'..... but if the 'credible witness' was never ever party to the signing of the bill of sale or is prepared to deny any knowledge of same (easily fixed of course -I think they use a garneshee order to seize and check their bank accounts to check credits to the account and from whom they received payment) - in that 'they did not witness the 'affidavidit' - then - oh deary deary me - LBL are clearly up the lake without a paddle on this valid point of the BoS Act.

 

Looks like the net is closing in on unscrupulous solicitors as well - ode to the joy of the many ways to skin a cat!!! : )

 

Applecart

[applecart]

Hoff135

 

Correct - 7 days is the MAX for registration - no ifs, no buts!

 

Don't rely on simply 1 issue though - They could argue that it was an 'oversight' or a 'technicality' - so, I would advise that you scrutinize your bill of sale for other errors as well: i.e

 

Is it in the prescribed form ?

Have they stated the credit terms correctly?

Was it sworn by a credible witness?

If stamped outside of 7 days - has an application been made to rectify it in good time?

 

Hope this helps?

 

Applecart : )

[ukdeveloper]

hmm, this all makes incredibly good reading….

 

I havent really had time to go through all the posts, but am i right in thinking that all BOS "must" be signed by a sol?

 

As some of you know i had a loan secured on my vehicle from Mobile Money, which i had to pay (albeit at a reduced rate) to have settled.

 

I don't recall ANY of my docs being signed by a solicitor, and was just wondering if i am in a position (if it comes to it) to start a reclaim against monies paid to this outfit? or indeed if you think its worth it anyway?

 

original loan = £600.

Total Paid pack around £1,500

 

so i guess i got off lightly eh?

 

UKD.

[trooper68]

Its not only that, but i understand that they have used sol named without there (sol) knowing anything about it.....I makes me wnder how far this goes back AND any legal ramifications on passed court cases...

 

For the price of a phone call to the sols, it may be worth it..

 

trooper68

[smashedbobo]

Hi, trooper68, could you possibly have a quick look at my thread and see if I am asking the right question to solicitor please,

 

Thank you

[ims]

Hi CCTV, bill of sale has the following:

http://217.40.156.25:8100/getdoc.aspx

 

just one for you all as posted on my thread:

 

IMPORTANT NOTICE TO ALL WITH LBL LOAN:

 

Log book loans rely upon the bill of sale in repossession of your cars, Now if they rely on this to repo your car, play them at their own game.

 

NOTE: VEHICLE MUST BE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY FOR THIS TO WORK, NOT ON A PUBLIC HIGHWAY ETC.

 

Lbl use section 7 of the bill of sale to repo your car under default (they dont care if they have actualy sent you a default notice) you call the police, they show bill of sale, police say civil matter, you loose your car) as i did.

 

Go to the bill of sale act 1882 and print off a copy. if the repo team turn up, call the police, they will show the BOS the police will say its civil and they cannot get involved.

 

HIGHLIGHT SECTION 13 OF THE BILL OF SALE ACT 1882!!!!!! AND SHOW TO POLICE OFFICER!!!! MUST BE IN THE TRUE FORM.

 

I QUOTE:

 

13 - Chattels not to be removed or sold

 

All personal chattels seized or of which possession is taken, under or by vertue of any bill of sale (whether registered before of after the commencement of this act), shall remain on the premises where they were so seized or so taken possession of, and shall not be removed or sold until after the expiration of five clear days from the day they were so seized or so taken possession of.

 

So in right, yes they may take possession of it, or seize it, but they cant move it for 5 days....giving plenty of time for you to do whatever you so need to.

 

So if for instance the car wasnt there when they returned......Police are called.....CIVIL MATTER

[applecart]

IMS - that's brilliant information.

 

Apple : )

[Nicky Bodmin]

Hi CCTV,

 

I did what you advised and got a copy from the High Courts of BOS.

I contacted the Law Firm that was named on the BOS.

She seemed very interested in what I had to say. She asked for a copy to look at to verify her signature. This I did but to this day she has not returned emails phone calls or any thing confirming either way.

I'm not sure if this has any implication.

The BOS was signed in Penzance on 15thy Sept and was stamped on the 16th in London. Penzance being the furthest point down in Cornwall.

Can anyone suggest why the solicitor will not confirm the signature.

I have a conference call listed in the High Courts on the 27 July for my hearing to Void the BOS

While arranging this i had to get Wisemyers to confirm availability for hearing. He was available at any time.How come he is not caught up in other hearings. I cant be the only person to him LBL in Court.

[cctv engineer]

Hi CCTV,

 

I did what you advised and got a copy from the High Courts of BOS.

I contacted the Law Firm that was named on the BOS.

She seemed very interested in what I had to say. She asked for a copy to look at to verify her signature. This I did but to this day she has not returned emails phone calls or any thing confirming either way.

I'm not sure if this has any implication.

The BOS was signed in Penzance on 15thy Sept and was stamped on the 16th in London. Penzance being the furthest point down in Cornwall.

Can anyone suggest why the solicitor will not confirm the signature.

I have a conference call listed in the High Courts on the 27 July for my hearing to Void the BOS

While arranging this i had to get Wisemyers to confirm availability for hearing. He was available at any time.How come he is not caught up in other hearings. I cant be the only person to him LBL in Court.

 

 

Hi. the best thing for you to do is list that solicitors company here on the forum full company name and address. as being part of a bill of sale. then email the company with a link to this page on this forum this will upset them no end if they are not involved with lbl. and tell them you will remove it when they have sent you the info you need. or if you post there details i will send them a letter for you.

[Nicky Bodmin]

it just dont make sense why they wont say yes its is or no it isnt.

What do they gain from ignoring it

[cctv engineer]

it just dont make sense why they wont say yes its is or no it isnt.

What do they gain from ignoring it

 

 

 

Hi nick if you post there details then we will find out.

[Nicky Bodmin]

[Nicky Bodmin]

[ims]

Hi Nicky, is this the copies of the BOS as given by the high court? How much did it cost you as im getting told its £40??

[Nicky Bodmin]

Hi Ims

It cost £5.00

Address it to.

 

Room E15 Enforcements then the courts address.

[bingowings]

I got mine the other week & paid £10.00, i went in person & staff were really helpful.

[ims]

Everytime i phoned i got told its £40 for the search and copy of the full BOS, i do have my front page, but i dont have the statement bit, i dont suppose it matters to my case however, but it would be nice to have it and to see what it says.

[ims]

Just something i have found out that may be of interest to anyone that has bought a car with a LBL loan attached to it, and under the data protection act LBL are refusing to send out any information about the loan.

 

Under the CPR rules and regulations Section 25A, any third party that is connected to a prospective court case (which it will in most cases as log book loans are trying to collect a car belonging to third party) All information and evidence that will be submitted in that case must be provided, However you can only look at this evidence, you cannot copy it or take it away, and it has to be reviewed in the presence of a solicitor, But im sure if you contact LBL and tell them that under this law, you will be a third party and as such are requireing to see any evidence that can be produced in a court of law they have to provide it.

[selinajayne]

my bill of sale doesnt have the purple stampon it is that ok or not

[Nicky Bodmin]

Hi Selina,

 

Who sent you the BOS was it LB or was it from the High Courts. If LB thesend ssomething different.

[selinajayne]

oh right yes it was log book