Northern Ireland Belfast - PCN 46 - parked on a clearway.... no road markings

[carley]

Hi Guys,

 

I received the following PCN

 

"46 parked on a clearway where stopping is prohibited"

 

The road had no yellow lines of any description, however there was some sort of "clearway between 8am-9.30am" sign around 30yards away (not really visable from the car).

 

I have a couple of photos I'll try to upload.

 

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/2897/carfine1zj5.th.jpgcarfine1zj5.th.jpg

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http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7567/parkfine2ka1.th.jpg

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I have drawn circles around the nearest signs I could see!

You can click on the pictures to make them bigger.

The location was Belfast.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Many Thanks!

[green_and_mean]

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/SI/si2002/02311352.gif

 

If it was that sign 646 then yellow lines are not needed and you can only stop to drop off passengers.

[carley]

thanks for the repley...

 

yeah, I think it was the top one

[patdavies]

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/SI/si2002/02311352.gif

 

If it was that sign 646 then yellow lines are not needed and you can only stop to drop off passengers.

 

That Act does not apply in NI

[carley]

Does that mean there should be lines?

[patdavies]

No,

 

Just that signage is covered by separate legislation and may therefore be different.

 

Similarly, the RTA 1991 does not apply in NI. Who issues the 'PCN'?

[carley]

It says Roads Service

 

The Traffic Management (Northern Ireland) )rder 2005 Articles 4 to 17 (as amended)

[green_and_mean]

http://www.roadsafetyni.gov.uk/traffic_signs.pdf

 

Sorry I meant the 5th one down on the right.

[patdavies]

green_and_mean,

 

I wasn't in any way getting at your posts.

 

Merely pointing out that this is Northern Ireland and therefore different legislation applies. I don't even know if they have DPE over the water.

[green_and_mean]

No offence taken I was just messing about!

 

The NI equivalant of the RTA 1991 is the Traffic Management (Northern Ireland) Order 2005 which allows Traffic attendants to issue tickets on behalf of the regional authoritys 'Roads Service' agency who use NCP to enforce. PCNs are £60 and subject to the 50% reduction the same as the mainland.

[carley]

http://www.roadsafetyni.gov.uk/traffic_signs.pdf

 

Sorry I meant the 5th one down on the right.

 

cheers again - yep, that looks kinda like it too....guess I'de better get the chequebook out!

[Hungrydoug]

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/SI/si2002/02311352.gif

 

If it was that sign 646 then yellow lines are not needed and you can only stop to drop off passengers.

 

Except during the times of the clearway operation of course

[green_and_mean]

You can stop on an urban clearway to set down or pick up it does say that next to the diagram.

[Hungrydoug]

Well there you go!

The clearway near me is a no stopping clearway with the red x on blue background sign, I thought they were all the same! Back to the books for me