UKCPM Vanishing windscreen PCN - Residential parking - failure to display permit - southampton

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Welcome to the Forum. As dx said you shot yourself in the foot by appealing before finding out the Law that applies to the private parking crooks. Had you not appealed UKPCM would have no chance of winning. But it si something that so many people do and it may not be fatal to your case.

 

The contract between you and the land lord is important and may well decide the case. There will also be a contract between UKPCM and the landlord the terms of which  should not override your one with the landlord especially as none of the tenants appear to have had a say in bringing in the crooks or possibly amending the original contract.

 

Does your contract expect you to show you have a permit. Normally in a gated area with key fobs for the tenants this is usually not required.

 

But with the UKPCM infestation they usually introduce permits. Was the permit still visible on the floor of the car do you know?  There is a new Private Parking Code of Practice coming in to force hopefully this year and being in possession of a permit even though not visible is enough to have a claim dropped.

 

At the moment private parking is covered by the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 which the cowboys who run the private  car parks totally ignore in order to make the maximum amount of money possible. Nothing to do with running a car park efficiently for the benefit of the motorists and land owners.

 

Some residential car parks have a "white list" that the crooks are given so they know whoe the tenants are and so do not issue them with PCNs. Did your landlord do that?

 

You do need to look at your contract and see if you complied with that. If you did you may be able to sue the crooks for trespass should you have supremacy of contract.

 

No point in appealing. The IAS is not neutral and operate a kangaroo style Court where motorists seldom win. UKPCM know they are on sticky ground and while they will persist in sending final demands before passing it over to some unregulated debt collector who will push up the price and send you further final demands they may well stop at actually issuing you with a Court claim.

 

The reason they shouldn't take you to Court is that the odds are not in their favour. However as they are too stupid to learn what final means, they may also be stupid enough to take you t o Court-not just threaten.

 

In the meantime don't worry we will give you advice when you need it so put your credit card in your pocket as noone likes to finance thieves.