UKPC/DCB(Legal) 11+PCNs for privately owned van used for my Ltd Co. - PAPLOC for 5, gained Default Judgement!! - Parkhorse Shopping Centre, Church St, Hudds, HD1 2RT **SET ASIDE+CLAIM DISMISSED**

[ericsbrother]

Right, UKPC have been banned from accessing the DVLA database so cant do anything about contacting the keeper as from last week.

 

Tell us when you got the tickets slapped on your vehicle and what other correspondence you have and particularly have you made any contact with them?

 

As they will have had to wait 28 days before being able to ask the DVLA for keeper details most of these will be impossible to find out who you are anyway and if they were in time to ask about one or two they arent allowed to assume that you hadnt sold the van the day afterwards so cant just guess that you might still be the keeper.

 

They are such a shower they wont have got the paperwork right to claim keeper liability anyway so that gives you at least 2 reasons to complain to the DVLA and ICO if they do write to you.

 

So, will they take you to court?

I see their business folding before they get that far, the nlt director has taken half a million out of the business in loans that arent going to be repaid so I guess he is going to do a runner and start again and hope that no-one notices that.

 

keep any paperwork you get and start learning about how these things work rather than getting the hump about it, knowing what the signage says and actually means as far as an offer of a contract goes will help you make decisions on whether to park or not in the future.

 

If you can show us the pictures of the signage there that would help us help you.

Edited May 1, 2018 by dx100uk
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[ericsbrother]

well, no unauthorised parking isnt an offer of a contract to park. No contract means you cant break it and therefore dont owe any money

Also UKPC are banned from obtaining your keepr detaisl so if you get a letter through the post tell us when it arrives and we will advise of what to say to the DVLA as a complaint.

[ericsbrother]

No landowner is going to go to the expense of hiring a QC to fight a county court small claim, they cant recover the costs and a QC will be a thousand an hour minimum.

 

However, finding somewhere lese to park is good advice, the landlord could go after you in different ways that pass on the cost of his lawyers

 

but there is one thing for certain, this has nothing to do with UKPC and anything they say or do is totally separate, they cant claim agency or they wouldnt be able to send out demands in their own name either.

 

Understanding a little about how all of this works makes it easier to see that the parking co's normally dont have a leg to stand on but rely on lies, ignorance, bullying and bluff to get money when none is due.

 

There are places where they have a proper contract with the landowner, have proper signage and planning permission for their equipment but these are few and far between.

 

They are mostly done on the fly because the people who run the parking co's are ex-clampers and used to make money by threats and intimidation ( see how many got done for carrying an offensive weapon before the POFA and you will see the sort of person you are dealing with).

 

even Parking Eye, the biggest co by far, doesnt bother with planning permission unless they are brought to task by a council and would rather lie to a court than actually go down the proper route.

Edited May 3, 2018 by honeybee13
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[ericsbrother]

The law in NI is different to England and Wales and also so Scotland. Clamping is still allowed in NI for starters, no POFA and no keeper liability.

 

However the reference you make is a bit of a non-story so if you have a problem with a parking issues the first thing to consider is the offer of a contract by way of signage at the place where you park and whether it means anything.

 

In your case the lease may also trump their signage. UKPC cant access the DVLA database because they have been banned from doing so and that means if you get a demand through the post you need to ask the DVLA who has accessed your keeper details and to complain as they will have broken the law by doing so.

Edited June 20, 2018 by Andyorch
Paras and spelling

[ericsbrother]

superiority of contract.

If you have an agreement with landowner that trumps their offer of a contract to the public.

 

analogy would be i employ and estate agent to sell my house and tell them that I dont want prospective buyers parking on my land whilst they view.

the estate agent then send out demands for payment to my friends for parking on my drive.

 

Well, I have agreed to let them so even if I somehow gave the estate agnet permission to beg money from house viewers that wouldnt apply to me, my family or anyone else I invite on to my land.

The EA would have no say in this.

 

Same applies in your case, they will have permission that is limited by th landlords rights and by any other agreement he has with others, either as part of the lease or by way of an easement ( if you have parked there for 8 years you can create a right to do so) or by other agreement.

 

[ericsbrother]

DATES are critical so what is the date on their NTK and when did you receive it?

 

as for 15 yellow NTK's do you mean notice to driver? IE ticket stuck on screen? again tell us the DATES of the events and what you have received since for each of them. As they were barred from using KADOE then you will be asking the DVLA who accessed your details and when to see if they are lying to the DVLA again.

[ericsbrother]

we know that, what we dont know because you havent told us is the DATES of both the screen tickets and the corresponding NTK's through the post.

 

Half of the information is not helpful so what is the date on the letter sent and does it correspond with the screen ticket?

 

What was the date you received it, I have a newspaper to tell me todays date but I cant guess as to when you received your letter with any accuracy.

 

Please read things carefully and answer fully

Edited July 6, 2018 by honeybee13
Paras

[ericsbrother]

they are rentathreats and can do nothing in their own name or on behalf of anyone else. they may well recommentd their client does things but I recommend you use daz for whiter washes but I cant sue you if you dont.

[ericsbrother]

right thats it, expect a lba any day now. My clients have a washing powder monopoly and even to suggest that you can use other ones is a breach of the clearly indicated contract written on the back of the box or available on their web site so you cant say you didnt see it. My friends Will and John will support me on this and will add their £60 unicorn food tax to the bill for doing their usual nothing.

 

 

And other Washing Powders which are available

[ericsbrother]

sorry but repeating the same mantra wont actually solve your problems and will undoubtedly create some more.

 

YOou CAN beat these bandits but you have to go about it in a logical and orderly manner and it isnt quick. They have a lot to gain from this and little to lose so you need to be able to reverse that risk/reward equation.

 

Do not bin any more of their letters you have so far destroyed all of the evidence you can gather to show they havent got things right when applying the law that does apply. The reason they succeed is because most peopel are ignorant fo teh rules and processes and dont start off on the right foot because of this.

 

Look at thread where peopel get clobbered in supermarket car parks. they are the easiest to overturn because usually planning law is against the parking co and the supermarket doesnt want the whole world to knwo they have got into bed with some crooks so will tell the parking cowboys to back off when they are put in the spotlight.

 

Informtion is key and knowledge is king. If you thnk that screwing your financial life up for the next 6 years plus is the way forward then  you shuold look at the debt pages instead of parking