TFL SJPN - accidently tried to use wrong pass

[dx100uk]

so they did not reply to your begging letter for OOC?

bit strange as this was obviously a one off mistake.

 

can we have some dates please..

 

you can use email the email AD is on the very 1st letter from TfL.

 

dx

 

[dx100uk]

you should not have left it so long from 14th july to recontact them.

 

as the thread you mention in post 1 is good 

 

and 

 

 

[dx100uk]

plead guilty

state you want to come to court. (your ultimate aim is to show remorse directly to the judge and of course if OOC has not been reached on the day, try a personal approach to the TfL prosecutions team there and then before the hearing , make sure you have payment methods with you..)

use the box at 4.2 to further plea too, regardless, and how a one off mistake would ruin your future etc etc).

 

use the threads indicated above and others here (use our enhanced google search box ... grovelling letter or what have you) to construct such a letter (and for want of future readers DONT reply as this OP did!!) GROVEL!!! BEG!! etc etc

 

pop it up here 1st if you wish as TEXT.

 

you have till the 5oct though i'd get an email in ASAP. it might take a couple...NO do NOT ring but certainly make yourself a PEST!!

its very rare for a one off mistake to result in a criminal record and not achieve an OOC

 

 

 

 

 

 

[dx100uk]

That's letter is far far far too long 

One side only.

 

Short paragraphs only. 90% of that letter is pointless waffle and totally unnecessary. Will end up in the bin.  And stop quoting their rules  and regs, they know them inside out 

 

Dx

[dx100uk]

Still far too long . 

 

You really only need to say that it was a one off error caused by having multiple passes in the same wallet, something that never would normally ever happen, conjoined with simple forgetfulness. 

 

Apologise for all the inconvenience caused to tfl staff, offer to pay any unpaid fare and admin fees wishing to seek settlement that out of court.

 

Also pointout you already have existing card(s) and will continue to ensure the use of the right card going forwards since the day of your fatal mistake .

 

End again by apologising.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[dx100uk]

Sorry but you don't need to include all that twaddle . Your dyslexia is not an excuse and should not be mentioned 

 

Follow the example ideas I gave above to Inc and like threads.

 

You are seriously over complicating what should be a simple almost blunt letter.

 

Dx

[dx100uk]

they have not offered nor invited you to offer redress...why do you keep saying that?

needs work and rearranging.

 

stop being so formal, normal joe blog english.

 

i write in relation to my 1st letter dated xxxxxx

 

On the day in question, my actions were a one off error caused by mistakenly having multiple passes in the same wallet, something that would never would normally happen, conjoined with simple forgetfulness. i touched my wallet, it picked up a pass i was merely carry to hand on, and not my own, my actions were not a deliberate attempt to defraud TfL.

 

something like the above, short to the point and sweet. the MAIN point of your letter is to point out it was a natural HUMAN MISTAKE.

 

then apologise etc state it cant/wont happen again (use my sentence. from above)

 

I am happy to reach a settlement outside of court and compensate you for your troubles by paying any unpaid fares, fines and any administration charges to save pocket from court costs and alleviate the financial stress.

 

please DONT use the above, it's rude...

 

i wish to request that you consider an out of court settlement in this matter, above all to save court time. i am will to pay any missed fares, administration costs or fines to mutually settle the matter. 

 

A criminal record would destroy my future employment options and impact the whole family financially...

 

 

 

 

[dx100uk]

made a few changes. i'll make some more later

ditch the green!

 

we need to include a bit about the contents of your 1st letter right at the start as well as its a bit cheeky what you previously insinuated to them (dont teach your grandmother to suck eggs!)

 

more later busy with sheep!! till dark..

 

[dx100uk]

Unnecessary waffle 

 

Dx

[dx100uk]

I'll look later.

 

I've made one change, but I can't read pdf's when out herding sheep and I'm sure it would also help to make some comment regarding your 1st letter.

 

More later.

 

Dx

[dx100uk]

ok im happy with your 1st letter so no need to bring it up

get that emailed to TfL.

 

i would give it no more than 1 week before we send something extra if you get no reply.

 

court reply can be done oct 1st unless im missing something . on dates you have a good period to be a pest.

[dx100uk]

copy/paste as text of an email

attach as PDf too.

 

put your case number in the subject line.

 

 

[dx100uk]

no??

it gives them an easy way to put your response in any files they might need/have for the future.

you'll just get a small fine and a warning letter i expect.

 

 

 

 

 

[dx100uk]

what do you think?????

[dx100uk]

no you are not repeating yourself, you are simply putting the same response in a PDf file as the text of your email.

[dx100uk]

Good youve now got a line of communication.

 

Politely reply stating something like.

 

thank you replying to my email dated xxxxx and for your reply the contents of which are duly noted.

 

I can appreciated your stance and again reintegrate i am will to meet all costs etc to achieve an OOC.

 

I can also appreciate the company statement of how serious misuse of 60+ passes is, and again do not disagree, however as i have described, more than one card was contained within my wallet.

 

i did not open it to pass through the barrier and forgot the 60+ pass was also in there too along with my existing valid card. The matter of it being clearly distinguishable, had i opened my wallet, would have obviously caused me not to selected it and reminded me it was in there.

 

This was a simple human mistake, it was not and never would i, intentionally look to defraud anyone. My travel history of my existing card proves this, as does no other pattern of use of the 60+ pass.

 

I relation to your comments regarding professions and potential discriminatory practices, i highly agree. My explanation involving where my life is going was not intended to be viewed as a reason not to punish me.

 

i except i did wrong, but was merely indicating what allowing this offence to progress to court and what impact a potential criminal record would be, as opposed to an out of court settlement for me. Indeed i have seen like cases on the forums whereby another TfL prosecutor granted OOC sighting it was not a TfL policy to ruin someone's future over a one off sully mistake.

 

I thank you for taking the time and trouble in replying to me and reading this and again i apologise that my actions ever bought me to this predicament.

 

Yours sincerely

[dx100uk]

Accompanied???

 

Put the top thank you lines back

 

Dx

[dx100uk]

settlement .   missing end of para 2

[dx100uk]

Legal costs? 

 

Full out the sjp as advised then. 

We will write again before your appearance.

 

Treat the form as if the judge is not aware of previous Comms 

 

Dx

[dx100uk]

plead guilty

state you want to come to court. (your ultimate aim is to show remorse directly to the judge and of course if OOC has not been reached on the day, try a personal approach to the TfL prosecutions team there and then before the hearing , make sure you have payment methods with you..)

use the box at 4.2 to further plea too, regardless, and how a one off mistake would ruin your future etc etc).

 

use the threads indicated above and others here (use our enhanced google search box ... grovelling letter or what have you) to construct such a letter (and for want of future readers DONT reply as this OP did!!) GROVEL!!! BEG!! etc etc

 

pop it up here 1st if you wish as TEXT.

 

you have till the 5oct though i'd get an email in ASAP. it might take a couple...NO do NOT ring but certainly make yourself a PEST!!

its very rare for a one off mistake to result in a criminal record and not achieve an OOC.

 

How you reply and by what method is upto you. We don't recommend which soap powder to use 

 

 

[dx100uk]

you received that weeks ago.

we've told you atleast twice how to respond to it

 

you dont need the extra cost of legal representation - we've answered that before too.

 

dx

 

[dx100uk]

an option on the SJP forum asks if you wish to attend on the day to plead in person

as already advised you should tick this option ...no.3. i think.