ParkingEye ANPR PCN PAPLOC Now Claimform - Overstay - Riverside retail park, Chelmsford

[Reds123]

thanks for that @Nicky Boy . I have been to the courts before and I know what it takes . 

[FTMDave]

So confirmed, no DQ has been sent by the court.

PE are trying one of their slimy, "frightening" tactics.

Ignore the rubbish they've sent.  Wait for the real DQ from the court.

[Reds123]

I should have written sooner to the Retail park owners. I have written to them this morning. Prompt reply by the facilities manager requesting the copy of the PCN . Hopefully they get it down!!! Fingers crossed  

[FTMDave]

Very good move to contact the retail park owners.

However, you're right that you should have done it while this was a simple PCN, now that there is a claim form you can be sure the fleecers will fight like hell to not cancel, because the poor dears have shelved out the enormous sum of £35 to start the claim.  Have a look at the last couple of pages of Reapstar's thread at Goodmayes Hospital.

Good move though. 

[Reds123]

High hopes. So I still have to submit the Directions questionnaire sent by PE as I understand. But I will wait for them to do theirs?  In the meantime if they take it off am lucky.
 

Am I right in understanding the process?

[dx100uk]

nope you ignore it.

wait until mcol claim history shows dq's have been sent out.

2 hours ago, Reds123 said:

thanks for that @Nicky Boy . I have been to the courts before and I know what it takes . 

good you should be able to eat them for breakfast easily then, just dont let any more silly mistakes or slipups occur that they could exploit, as they will do so. there's nothing more intuitive than reading a good 20+ pcn claimform threads,it get you used to what's actually next in the process and what comes after that and how to or not react.

dx

 

[Nicky Boy]

Aww!

You got a like from reds, dx.

You must be mates again...

 

Reds,

dx sometimes comes across as brusque. If you knew how thin he spreads himself around the whole site (and elsewhere), you'd understand that he can only spend so much time on each problem... I am totally in awe of him and others on the forums.

[Reds123]

Seen his previous detailed explanations too. Don’t blame him at all. 

[dx100uk]

its just a tool in my toolbox. if it has the desired effect i'll use it.

people sometimes forget our posts are not just regarding their situation personally at that time.. 10'000 of people read and will read our threads without ever becoming a member and need to understand how important it is to actually do certain things.

we don't, and have never operated, like some other consumer forums or websites, whereby 90% of the information is templated and scripted and not 'alive'.

we personally take the trouble to live type every post with relevant and directed advice.....thats takes a very special and dedicated team of individuals whom are hard to find...The Siteteam.

dx

 

[Nicky Boy]

Not really thought like that... It's a shame we have no idea of how many "browsers" just take the info here, run with it themselves and get a successful outcome. There certainly must be some...

[lookinforinfo]

On post 32 PE responded to your snotty letter . What they failed to say was that the keeper  could not be held liable for the debt because they had screwed up the PCN. In addition the not specifying the parking period  Schedule 4 S9 [2] [a]

(2)The notice must— (a)specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates; 

they also got it wrong on Schedule 4 S9 [2] [e]  

(e)state that the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver and invite the keeper—

(i)to pay the unpaid parking charges; or

(ii)if the keeper was not the driver of the vehicle, to notify the creditor of the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver and to pass the notice on to the driver;

Did their PCN ask you the keeper to pay the debt? No they dd not.

Did they ask you to pass the Notice on to the driver? No they did not. So massive fail.

[Reds123]

Thank you for highlighting those issues. Fab. 
 

my concern is how do I respond if I was asked the driver of the vehicle? Say” no I was not the driver “in courts?

[dx100uk]

that will all become clear as you read and understand things .

what you might ever say in court is related to your disclosures at the disclosure stage by a witness statement, which basically (horrible word!) expands upon the points raised in your defence and responds to the points raised in your witness statement in (hopefully) a reply to theirs and other issues.

you are under no obligation to reveal who was driving, should you know that or not.

it's for the claimant to prove their claim on all points, and as the PCN is non compliant, as LFI points out, that question will never come up.

dx