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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
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Still no contact. Shall I make the recording public.

 

Brighthouse your aware I have a recording of the sale, which is foul and totally against the cca to say the least.

 

I'll post public ally Wednesday as they have had plenty of time to respond now

 

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Can I add one other thing about recordings. If you recorded a conversation without their consent, you would fall foul of the law in publishing the recording.

 

Any transcript of the conversation is fine so long as you do not identify anyone.

 

I still wouldn't do that either as it can only get their backs up.

 

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Good Afternoon nellyj99,

 

I am sorry there has not been any contact from the Regional Manager since the account holder spoke to the Manager covering.

 

I have chased this up with the Regional Manager for your friend today.

 

If the account holder has not heard anything today, the customer relations team will be able to assist and see if the call can be transferred directly through to the Regional Manager.

 

Thank you for your patience at this time.

 

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No call has been made today.

 

Thank you Jason I have to say you are the only one to be supportive and provide the guidance ill ensure a follow up call is made to customer relations tomorrow

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To all brighthouse emails I could locate and there CEO.

 

four weeks I been waiting and they phoned within ten minutes of receiving it.

 

 

They are getting back to me by 5pm so fingers corssed

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After 4 pm tomorrow if they don't comply to an agreement made with Gary MCKENZIE today. I have agreed to withhold the clip from any public forum until then.

 

However it includes a staff member saying if you don't pay we'll come to your house and take the goods anyway possible after all we have the right to repossession. If you don't pay we will hound you.

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ouch they said that on the phone

now how many times have we seen the brigthouse rep deny this as well as the CEO say the same?

 

 

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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If they have said that, i wouldnt agree to anything the idiots say. i would be going straight to the FCA/FOS and the press.

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The audio was recorded instore at the time of signing the contracts.

 

This was a member of staff reinforcing the way brighthouse works.

 

They know there dealing and this is being released today at 4pm

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Look Nelly

 

Not being rude but it's all good saying 4pm release etc.

I believe you have it, however making threats / promises is not a good idea.

 

Yes you have the upper hand for now. But do this conservatively for maximum effect. Also remember though, CAG won't allow you to release it here because of the larger implications

 

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They are just as bad from the top down.

 

They offered 100 compensation for all this distress and failure to deliver and being threatened to have my DOOR SMASHED IN IF I DIDN'T PAY.

 

I expressed I was unhappy with the resolution, he replied and asked what would I consider a fair outcome.

 

I replied and said the sofa that was originally purchased to be told that I was blackmailing them.

 

At which point the call was terminated.

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The address for any sort of litigation will be our Head Office address which I will provide.

 

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In reference to the implication of blackmail. What I said was we need to consider that in how we offer any sort of redress , I did not say or imply that this was what you were intention was. Unfortunately you chose to terminate the call before we could discuss the situation any further. I accept that you appeared frustrated with the call , however I am still happy to discuss further if you want to me to call you back and try and find a suitable resolution. I will respect you wish not to continue to call you unless you advise otherwise

 

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I am available today up until 4pm should you want to speak to me

 

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Would you not be frustrated after being told if you don't pay we will smash your door down, three weeks later they are demanding payment yet no goods been delivered.

 

Then they threaten to come to my home and do a payment review.

 

Yes I was frustrated

 

If anyone would like to hear the clip.

 

Feel free to message me.

 

Site team any way you can flag this to the Brighthouse rep on here please 😆

 

Don't make it public just yet. Let them mess up first. Follow official complaints procedure And keep your cards close to your chest

 

The official complaint process resulted in me being accused of blackmail

 

If they have said that, i wouldnt agree to anything the idiots say. i would be going straight to the FCA/FOS and the press.

 

 

That is exactly my next move aswell as litigation

 

I have no faith in the fos

 

Leo McKee (ceo)

 

You should be ashamed

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IMHO

 

 

one the audio file has been edited

 

 

he quite clearly says they will goto court

and enforce agreement and get their goods back

 

 

then relates to a 'possible' story he heard

where by 'someone' went around someones house

and simply barged in to get goods

doesn't say it was BH staff at all.

 

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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IMHO

 

 

one the audio file has been edited

 

 

he quite clearly says they will goto court

and enforce agreement and get their goods back

 

 

then relates to a 'possible' story he heard

where by 'someone' went around someones house

and simply barged in to get goods

doesn't say it was BH staff at all.

 

 

dx

 

That is a snap of the recording

 

I have emailed the full clip over to you.

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