UKPC Ashton Moss Ticket

[dgh1977]

Hi,

 

I've read some of the other threads relating to UKPC and wanted some advice.

 

I parked my parents car in a UKPC in Ashton Moss for about 10 minutes while I collected some food from a restaurant around 8.20pm. Upon my return I had a parking charge notice attached to the windscreen stating I parked without displaying a valid permit - effectively claiming I parked in a staff area however there were no visible signs stating it was a staff area - only a broken white line.

 

This was on the 16/08 and I have now received the notice to keeper dated 16/9. One item I noticed on this is that my car colour is listed as Red on the NTK - the original ticket states the colour as Black so they have changed information between them.

 

The NTK also shows a photo of my car with a sign on the restaurant wall in front. The sign was not lit and viewing it on their photos site it states staff parking only. There is however another sign about 10 ft away on a lampost stating to park in marked bays but there are none in this are.

 

The attachments below show a layout of where I parked.. The broken white line runs between 2 bollards and the signs are circled 1 & 2. My car was where the blue x was.

 

 

[ATTACH=CONFIG]53396[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]53397[/ATTACH]

 

Should I appeal on the basis of poor signage - ie no signs advising staff only are as well as GPEOL as its a free car park so a £90 charge is madness, or should I refrain from mentioning the latter till I appeal at POPLA?

 

Many thanks

 

Donal

[armadillo71]

Hi,

 

I've read some of the other threads relating to UKPC and wanted some advice.

 

I parked my parents car in a UKPC in Ashton Moss for about 10 minutes while I collected some food from a restaurant around 8.20pm. Upon my return I had a parking charge notice attached to the windscreen stating I parked without displaying a valid permit - effectively claiming I parked in a staff area however there were no visible signs stating it was a staff area - only a broken white line.

 

This was on the 16/08 and I have now received the notice to keeper dated 16/9. One item I noticed on this is that my car colour is listed as Red on the NTK - the original ticket states the colour as Black so they have changed information between them.

 

The NTK also shows a photo of my car with a sign on the restaurant wall in front. The sign was not lit and viewing it on their photos site it states staff parking only. There is however another sign about 10 ft away on a lampost stating to park in marked bays but there are none in this are.

 

The attachments below show a layout of where I parked.. The broken white line runs between 2 bollards and the signs are circled 1 & 2. My car was where the blue x was.

 

 

[ATTACH=CONFIG]53396[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]53397[/ATTACH]

 

Should I appeal on the basis of poor signage - ie no signs advising staff only are as well as GPEOL as its a free car park so a £90 charge is madness, or should I refrain from mentioning the latter till I appeal at POPLA?

 

Many thanks

 

Donal

 

 

Pedantic, but who has received the NTK?

 

 

No matter really as you have waited the 28 days for it suggesting you knew to do that...

 

 

The reg keeper should appeal the invoice to UKPC stating that they are not liable for this charge .

 

 

No loss has occurred to the landowner by the driver spending money at the restaurant.

 

 

Please cancel this charge forthwith, or provide a validation code for the independent appeals service POPLA.

 

 

No other correspondence will be entered into.

 

 

This appeal has been sent with proof of postage.

[ericsbrother]

Yep, save your other arguments for POPLA, whwre you can add demands to see the contract between them and landowner that allows them to pursue you in their own name and determine the conditions of parking.