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Actually I live in a very small village with no facilities like a shop but we do have a church, in the middle of nowhere in the north of england so yes i do know what snow is, and unless you live in cumbria or scotland it is very unlikly that you will have had more than us, if you do live in these area s i apologise. No I am not discriminating I am saying that you should be treated the same, you should be expected to do the job you are employed for the same as everyone else, you were the one who mentioned that you were expected to hit targets as if you shouldnt have been.

I think there is a tendancy to overlable people sometimes and as yet you have not been officially diagnosed with anything, and if you are it may not be a severe as it could be, I am sure that if and when you are diagnosed with somthing your employer will make reasonable adjustments if he can, however until such time you will be expected to conform the same as everyone else.

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Hi all, thanks for your advice.

 

The reason I am unhappy about going through my GP is because, as previously stated, he has consistently been unhelpful and is frequently rude. He has not provided me with any useful advice and gets quite negative when I suggest things. Yes, I have to research and suggest things to my GP. Even the reception staff don't like him - the practice manager actually said that to me. I moved to this doctor a few years ago to get away from the previous doctors who were actually worse!

 

However, as people have correctly stated, I can only get this referral by standing tall, walking into his office and asking. It's worth the stress that confrontation (and it probably will be a confrontation) causes.

 

Finally, just so people don't get the wrong idea, I do not go around seeking arguments or conflict. I ask for things that I want, I do not storm in and demand them or start being belligerent when I am refused. Whether or not I am actually diagnosed with aspergers or something else that I haven't heard of yet, I cannot see my employer working with me at all and that's why I feel squeezed out.

 

By the way, my apologies to those who find all this personal stuff uncomfortable, I just don't know how to explain the situation without getting into it.

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If you have been with your doctor for a few years and don't like him I woud get a new doctor. Anything else is either lazy or poor judgement.

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Erm, sorry - do you not go to a GP to have THEM diagnose an illness ?

 

If a GP is rude, then you have the freedom to either complaint or change your GP, which you appear to have already done because the previous GP also wasnt happy about you self diagnosing and expecting him/her to agree with your diagnosis !

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Erm, sorry - do you not go to a GP to have THEM diagnose an illness ?

There are many, many things a GP cannot diagnose. In this case I need to be referred by my GP to an autism specialist.

 

If a GP is rude, then you have the freedom to either complaint or change your GP...

Unless I try to get a doctor in another city, in which case I will probably need to go private, I am not sure how I am going to get away from this one. The idea of making a complaint is not something I've explored since I have no recourse to another GP, but I will actually explore this option tomorrow.

 

...the previous GP also wasnt happy about you self diagnosing and expecting him/her to agree with your diagnosis !

You made three assumptions there.

 

1. Self-diagnosis: I was advised to read up on aspergers by the therapist and I meet nearly all the symptoms, including the advantageous ones that are not commonly known. My condition has drastically improved in the last few months since I started behavioural therapy for aspergers. I went to my current doctor with that information: "I've agreed with my therapist that I have all the major and most of the minor symptoms of aspergers. It explains everything I have been through and has helped me to get my life on track. Will you refer me to...?"

 

2. My previous GP: I actually went to a doctor's practice where there were a number of doctors. One told me I was borderline psychotic, which I certainly am not, and this has never been suggested since. Another was so insulting to my aunt she made a formal complaint. A third left me feeling suicidal, the only time in my life I ever felt like that. A fourth doctor had such a heavy Indian accent he was legendary for people not understanding him. Ironic, as he was actually a decent man and listened to people most of the time.

 

3. Doctors not being happy about self-diagnosis: My current doctor doesn't like it when I think ahead of him, but that is how my brain works. No doctor has ever actually said they don't appreciate me thinking ahead. My current doctor is very quick to shoot me down, but time consistently proves me right.

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Hi, until I met this therapist I have never had support. Getting through life has been like wading through waist-deep snow while everyone else is on skis.

 

There aren't any support groups for adults in my area. I have been asked to help set one up. I am the only member of the team who meets the criteria for aspergers. Therefore my team cannot really help me either - I will only make progress when I start meeting other aspies.

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Go to the Dr that was suggested by your GP who specialises in this, see what he has to say, it will be a lot quicker than waiting for a specialist appointment and you may at the end of the day not need one. It is very nice that time consistently proves you right but there are times when you could be wrong prehaps you should try listening to your GP occasionally and rather than suggesting things go with his advice. TBH we cant all be refered to a specialist when we want it, it costs money and time whenever a referal is requested and the GP posibally wants to be sure that it is not a waste of either.

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I've been going with the advice of GPs for 20 years. I saw my history on the doctor's computer screen last time I was there. It's full of "behavioural problems", "anxiety", "depression". Nobody ever offered any kind of solution, just pills. No therapy, no insights, no attempts to find out the cause of all these problems. Should I wait another 20 years, or do I take positive and affirmative action? The way I see it, a patient has the right to get to the bottom of their problems and should ask for further support when their GP draws a blank.

 

I don't make boasts about being right to show off. That's just the way things work with my doctors. I wouldn't have a problem with doctors if this was not the case.

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Hello again.

 

This thread seems to have veered off topic and we're here to deal with your employment issue.

 

May I humbly suggest that we try to get back to dealing with that part of your query on this thread? You might wish to start another thread in our NHS forum to discuss your psychological issues and possibly you will find some fellow caggers with similar problems.

 

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Hi, let's call it a day on this thread. The problem with my employer is not going to go away so I will need to find another job. Now that I am aware of my own strengths and limitations, I know which jobs I will be suited to and which to avoid.

 

Thanks to everyone for their assistance. I have learned a lot from this discussion.

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hold up! What happened to the occ health referal? no need to throw the towel in if you generally like your job.

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I'm going to speak to the union staff about occupational health tomorrow. I'm also going to try to arrange something with my doctor re a diagnosis.

 

I am increasingly coming to dislike the job. I don't get any enjoyment or satisfaction from working there any more because I have realised that the job and the company are inherently negative. I also want to use my intelligence and problem-solving skills. They have chosen to employ brand new staff for the department I wanted to move to rather than take advantage of my 3 years' experience.

 

You're probably suspecting they are punishing me for my absences, but they don't work like that. I'm getting a pay rise based on my performance and last year I won a huge performance bonus. This is about what exists and what doesn't exist.

 

The company is run by "machine men, with machine hearts and machine minds". It's about ones and zeros. Being in my current role is a one. Changing my current role based on MY needs as an individual, as opposed to their needs as a company, is a zero. Zeros are oblivion - they don't exist and there is no possibility of their existing. Being able to conceive a zero idea is something they cannot do.

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