Child benefit cuts-even HMRC are struggling to work them out.

[MARTIN3030]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2221638/Child-benefit-cuts-heading-chaos-Reforms-complicated-taxman-explain-them.html

[vicky87]

I cant believe Im about to say this, but I actually agree with this cut. I see no reason for people on 50k+ to be on child benefit at all. There shouldnt be a tapering system in place between 50-60k (which is, I assume whats confusing matters) it should just stop if you earn over 50k.

[MARTIN3030]

I heard one report that any savings made by filtering out the higher earners,would be swallowed up in processing !

[Nystagmite]

It seems that way.

[estellyn]

An easier way would have been to have merged child benefit with child tax credit, which already assesses income.

[MARTIN3030]

This would be far too easy for them.

[estellyn]

This would be far too easy for them.

 

True - simple solutions seem beyond them. Also by using the tax credits system, they could have set a joint income level to make things fairer, instead of what they have now, which is idiotic.

[Nystagmite]

I seem to remember when this was announced a few years ago (?) some were moaning that because they were earning £60k as a single person, they'd miss out. But a couple with a joint income of £60k wouldn't. The original plan was that people on the higher rate tax would miss out.

[estellyn]

No, a single parent, or couple with one parent working earning 60K would miss out, but a couple with two parents working earning 99.5k split equally between them, would get full child benefit.

[pink1808]

An easier way would have been to have merged child benefit with child tax credit, which already assesses income.

 

The only problem with that some people who earn over 50k cant get tax credit so they wont know about the ones that doesn't apply for it

 

Also I am one of the people who will be loosing my child benefit, I have no problem with giving it up but I think it should go on told household income.

What some people don't understand is we pay 40% tax also:)

 

so in my case ( a stay at home mum) my children get punished for their father doing well in life what type of lmessage does this send out to our children ?

Edited November 14, 2012 by pink1808

[Nystagmite]

so in my case ( a stay at home mum) my children get punished for their father doing well in life what type of lmessage does this send out to our children ?

 

Punished how? Benefits should be for those who need them.

[osdset]

Punished how? Benefits should be for those who need them.

 

+1

[Nystagmite]

There was something in the daily mail about this last week. There was someone earning £7k a month moaning she needs her child benefit. I'm sorry; but if you earn that amount and need child benefit, you should really learn to budget better. I receive less than that per year.

[count orlok]

Quite correct.

[Zonker]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/9641766/Child-benefit-cuts-may-be-illegal.html

 

This hasnt been mentioned on this thread.

[osdset]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/9641766/Child-benefit-cuts-may-be-illegal.html

 

This hasnt been mentioned on this thread.

 

Lol! HM Gov shoots itself in foot yet again.

[Zonker]

Yes especially in this case the people being affected may well have the finances to mount a legal challlenge without relying on legal aid.

[Nystagmite]

But it's only £20 a week... Are people earning £60k a year really that hard up that they "need" this money?

[osdset]

Cameron didn't need the DLA for his son did he? But it didn't stop him claiming it, wealthy pensioners still accept the freedom pass, it's greed pure and simple.

[worried33]

on the subject of complexity IDS feels the defenition of poverty is too simple and wants a more complex method, very amusing when he considers social security too complex.

[jadeybags]

I cant believe Im about to say this, but I actually agree with this cut. I see no reason for people on 50k+ to be on child benefit at all. There shouldnt be a tapering system in place between 50-60k (which is, I assume whats confusing matters) it should just stop if you earn over 50k.

 

Agreed.

[worried33]

I wonder how many of those 50k+ people are ones also calling for cuts for those on 5k income a 10th of the amount.

[jadeybags]

I posted about this on FB, a woman said 'ours stops in new yr, so going to miss it, every little helps '

*sigh* I mean, what can ya say to that.....