Disabled bay

[blooo]

Hi

 

My car was parked in a disabled bay and received a ticket for ;

 

Parked in a designated disabled person's parking place without displaying a valid person's badge in the prescribed manner.

 

It was parked with the badge on display.

 

Could someone please advise?

 

It was issued by Tower Hamlets

 

thanks

[Crocdoc]

Is it a Parking Charge Notice or Penalty Charge Notice ?

[blooo]

A penalty charge notice

 

Thanks

[Jamberson]

If it was issued by Tower Hamlets I am guessing it's a council one.

 

The key word in the contravention description is "valid". I would suggest you phone the council and ask what the problem was.

[blooo]

Ok, the only thing I can think of is that it was parked for more than 3 hours, could that be why?

[blooo]

I'm not sure if it was even parked for 3 hours as I wasn't the driver at the time

thanks

[Michael Browne]

Time is unlimited in disabled bays unless the sign says otherwise. If there was a time limit you would have needed to display the clock as well.

What did the sign say?

[drop47]

Dare i ask who is the badge for? Not you i hope.

[Chrisjay]

If it was issued by Tower Hamlets I am guessing it's a council one.

 

The key word in the contravention description is "valid". I would suggest you phone the council and ask what the problem was.

 

I had this recently because my blue badge was old but still readable but I had displayed it verticle - I sent a letter saying the old badges had no instructions on how they were to be displayed (the news ones do) and copied my new badge. They cancelled the notice. I agree the important word is valid and if it was, send them copies of both sides to varify this with a covering grovelling letter (they like grovel).

[Lillibelle]

Was it the drivers blue badge or yours? If it was yours,,were you passenger when the vehicle was parked?

[blooo]

Hi

 

Just checked the bay did NOT have a time limit stated.

 

The clock was displayed with the badge and I think that the car was parked for more than 3 hours. But does this matter? there was another car with no clock and just the badge and no penalty charge!

 

No the badge isn't mine its my neighbour's and my mum took her for a day out.

 

Cheers

[Lillibelle]

this sounds like a stupid question,,,,,,was the serial number displayed? chances are they have picked up on that,,,ridiculous I know,,but thats how pernickety they are,,mine is in a badge holder with the s/n on display

[Chrisjay]

this sounds like a stupid question,,,,,,was the serial number displayed? chances are they have picked up on that,,,ridiculous I know,,but thats how pernickety they are,,mine is in a badge holder with the s/n on display

 

The new ones come with a holder and clock attached and a clear sign on it saying how to display it which is useful and its water proof which my old one was card and started to deteriate with condensation etc

[Michael Browne]

Hi

 

Just checked the bay did NOT have a time limit stated.

 

The clock was displayed with the badge and I think that the car was parked for more than 3 hours. But does this matter?

No it doesn't.

 

 

I'd send an informal appeal essentially saying you were parked in a disabled bay with no time limit displaying the blue badge correctly. and you are at a loss as to why you have been issued with a PCN. That way the council has to give a reason.

 

Don't mention the clock or that you were more than 3 hours. They will put the discounted period on hold until they reply.

[Lillibelle]

The new ones come with a holder and clock attached and a clear sign on it saying how to display it which is useful and its water proof which my old one was card and started to deteriate with condensation etc

 

Oooh do they?? Mines up for renewal in may 13,,the one I have now is laminated card with the paper clock seperate,,I bought one of those holders...far cry from the days of the orange card huh lol.

[blooo]

The serial number is clearly on display (its in the middle of the badge so hard to be covered), the badge, clock and all are very clearly displayed and no way of it being covered in any way possible. In one of the new style wallets with the badge and clock on either side.

 

So do I just send an informal letter saying I was parked in a disabled bay with no time limit displaying the blue badge correctly, as Michael has suggested.

 

Thanks guys

[Lillibelle]

So do I just send an informal letter saying I was parked in a disabled bay with no time limit displaying the blue badge correctly, as Michael has suggested.

 

Definitely,,there was no infringement so go for it,,I would

[Chrisjay]

Nothing to lose is there?

[green_and_mean]

Since you were not there and got an account of how the badge was displayed second hand until you contact the Council its a waste of time speculating why the PCN was issued. Make an informal appeal then you can still pay at the discount rate or formally appeal depending on the reply.

[blooo]

OK so I will definitely make an appeal just wanted to check with you guys.

 

I will write in as everything was done correctly as explained here.

 

I will let you know guys what happens

 

Thanks

[blooo]

Update

 

I received a pretty funny response. Basically they have no proof that this was issued correctly. The PCN has been cancelled.

 

They state:

On the day the civil enforcement noted that your vehicle was parked in contravention of the the terms and conditions of the badge.

 

As this is your first offence we will cancel this PCN even though we are certain it was issued correctly.

I must advise you that if any other PCNs are issues in future or you have any outstanding for any other reason, full settler must be made.

 

It is the responsibility of the driver to park correctly at all times. To help you, I have listed overleaf the terms and conditions of blue badges. I hope this is clear.

 

 

Basically the terms and conditions they describe are very basic and they were all adhered too.

 

They are basically refusing to admit it was issued incorrectly. Either the pictures they took show this is the case. Or they have no proof.

 

Either way, the car was parked correctly.

 

Thanks guys for all your help!!!

[Michael Browne]

Councils generally tend to cancel BB holder tickets for a first offence, particularly for a minor infringement. No matter, the main thing is it's cancelled