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just received statements and now calculating charges

 

i will be interested in knowing how easy / hard the process was

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HSBC Full offer accepted!!£3613.39 :D

(Payment paid into bank 29/01/07)!!

_____________________

A & L offer recived in full

account threat of closure

reported to FOS 5/04/07

_____________________

Mint offer accepted in full

_____________________

Studio Pre lim sent 05/04/07

_________________

MBNA SAR sent

_______________________

Awaiting SAR doc from Creation finance

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The whole process was dead easy, it's just a question of time, and making sure you follow everything on this site. Theres no quick way around it, and the whole thing took five weeks start to finish for me, including having to file with MCOL.

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:confused: about the same time frame for me altho it seems like longer because they tend to ignore all communication:confused: am jkust waiting to issue MCOL and maybe that will get their attention. it does seem easy but only if you know exactly what you are doing, as long as you have read up on it and the tactics your bank will use you cant go far wrong. everyone else is doing it...:-|

gopod luck and keep us uptodate

me against the abbey Paid in full (donation made)

me against the woolwich Paid in full(donation made)

me against HSBC Paid in full(donation made)

 

 

beware the scrapbooker, for she has a long memory and sharp knives :lol:

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thanks guys just calulated charges over three accounts over 6years estimated £3000!!!!

 

just going to write my prelim letter following guidlines so here goes:rolleyes:

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HSBC Full offer accepted!!£3613.39 :D

(Payment paid into bank 29/01/07)!!

_____________________

A & L offer recived in full

account threat of closure

reported to FOS 5/04/07

_____________________

Mint offer accepted in full

_____________________

Studio Pre lim sent 05/04/07

_________________

MBNA SAR sent

_______________________

Awaiting SAR doc from Creation finance

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dropped off personally to the bank my prelim letter requesting £2900's charges the clock is now ticking tick!tick!!!

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HSBC Full offer accepted!!£3613.39 :D

(Payment paid into bank 29/01/07)!!

_____________________

A & L offer recived in full

account threat of closure

reported to FOS 5/04/07

_____________________

Mint offer accepted in full

_____________________

Studio Pre lim sent 05/04/07

_________________

MBNA SAR sent

_______________________

Awaiting SAR doc from Creation finance

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hi just received standard reply saying they are looking at matters i have raised and will contact me with a full response as soon as they have completed their investigations!!!

letter is dated 13th oct so the clock is still ticking!!!

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HSBC Full offer accepted!!£3613.39 :D

(Payment paid into bank 29/01/07)!!

_____________________

A & L offer recived in full

account threat of closure

reported to FOS 5/04/07

_____________________

Mint offer accepted in full

_____________________

Studio Pre lim sent 05/04/07

_________________

MBNA SAR sent

_______________________

Awaiting SAR doc from Creation finance

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can just clarify the waiting times i have sent my prelim letter is it 14 working days or just 14 calender days ???

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HSBC Full offer accepted!!£3613.39 :D

(Payment paid into bank 29/01/07)!!

_____________________

A & L offer recived in full

account threat of closure

reported to FOS 5/04/07

_____________________

Mint offer accepted in full

_____________________

Studio Pre lim sent 05/04/07

_________________

MBNA SAR sent

_______________________

Awaiting SAR doc from Creation finance

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14 calendar days :)

Kaz :)

 

 

HSBC

claiming £2749 (£3400 with court cost & 8%)

mcol acknowledge 25/09/06

DG requested breakdown 5/10/06

Breakdown sent to DG 12/10/06

 

Yes Car Credit/Direct Auto Finance

CCA request sent 18/10/06

 

Whilst my aim is to be helpful, its reasonable to assume I am not a professional and am (dare I say) not always right. Seek professional help if in doubt

:-D

 

:lol: If i have intentionally or accidently said something of relevance or use to you, please click the scales:lol:

 

"A bank is a place where they lend you an umbrella in fair weather and ask for it back when it begins to rain". - Robert Frost

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oh good i thought is was working days my clock is now ticking quicker only 6 days left!!! before my LBA is sent!!

__________________________________

HSBC Full offer accepted!!£3613.39 :D

(Payment paid into bank 29/01/07)!!

_____________________

A & L offer recived in full

account threat of closure

reported to FOS 5/04/07

_____________________

Mint offer accepted in full

_____________________

Studio Pre lim sent 05/04/07

_________________

MBNA SAR sent

_______________________

Awaiting SAR doc from Creation finance

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your victory is getting closer by the day ;)

Kaz :)

 

 

HSBC

claiming £2749 (£3400 with court cost & 8%)

mcol acknowledge 25/09/06

DG requested breakdown 5/10/06

Breakdown sent to DG 12/10/06

 

Yes Car Credit/Direct Auto Finance

CCA request sent 18/10/06

 

Whilst my aim is to be helpful, its reasonable to assume I am not a professional and am (dare I say) not always right. Seek professional help if in doubt

:-D

 

:lol: If i have intentionally or accidently said something of relevance or use to you, please click the scales:lol:

 

"A bank is a place where they lend you an umbrella in fair weather and ask for it back when it begins to rain". - Robert Frost

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hi guys some guidance is needed got a second letter fron hsbc saying they do not agree with my contention that the charges they imposed consitute a plenalty clause or unlawful.

they also state the oft ruling was for credit cards only and they hopes matters have now been resloved!!!

 

my 14 days ends next tuesday should i now send my letter before action or wait until next tuesday ???

 

please advise:confused: :confused:

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HSBC Full offer accepted!!£3613.39 :D

(Payment paid into bank 29/01/07)!!

_____________________

A & L offer recived in full

account threat of closure

reported to FOS 5/04/07

_____________________

Mint offer accepted in full

_____________________

Studio Pre lim sent 05/04/07

_________________

MBNA SAR sent

_______________________

Awaiting SAR doc from Creation finance

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they are lying. this is the standard fob off that they hope will put u off your claim. keep going ahead, keep to your deadline and then show them how its going to be resolved lol.

 

i got same letter as did millions of other people, it aint worth the paper its written on. keep your cool and keep going.

 

good luck :D

Kaz :)

 

 

HSBC

claiming £2749 (£3400 with court cost & 8%)

mcol acknowledge 25/09/06

DG requested breakdown 5/10/06

Breakdown sent to DG 12/10/06

 

Yes Car Credit/Direct Auto Finance

CCA request sent 18/10/06

 

Whilst my aim is to be helpful, its reasonable to assume I am not a professional and am (dare I say) not always right. Seek professional help if in doubt

:-D

 

:lol: If i have intentionally or accidently said something of relevance or use to you, please click the scales:lol:

 

"A bank is a place where they lend you an umbrella in fair weather and ask for it back when it begins to rain". - Robert Frost

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oh and wait til tuesday when the deadline is up :)

Kaz :)

 

 

HSBC

claiming £2749 (£3400 with court cost & 8%)

mcol acknowledge 25/09/06

DG requested breakdown 5/10/06

Breakdown sent to DG 12/10/06

 

Yes Car Credit/Direct Auto Finance

CCA request sent 18/10/06

 

Whilst my aim is to be helpful, its reasonable to assume I am not a professional and am (dare I say) not always right. Seek professional help if in doubt

:-D

 

:lol: If i have intentionally or accidently said something of relevance or use to you, please click the scales:lol:

 

"A bank is a place where they lend you an umbrella in fair weather and ask for it back when it begins to rain". - Robert Frost

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thanks but do i send LBA with a copy of previous letter & charges

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HSBC Full offer accepted!!£3613.39 :D

(Payment paid into bank 29/01/07)!!

_____________________

A & L offer recived in full

account threat of closure

reported to FOS 5/04/07

_____________________

Mint offer accepted in full

_____________________

Studio Pre lim sent 05/04/07

_________________

MBNA SAR sent

_______________________

Awaiting SAR doc from Creation finance

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my 14 days ends next tuesday should i now send my letter before action or wait until next tuesday ???

 

please advise:confused: :confused:

 

You can go ahead with your LBA now - no need to wait until next Tuesday - there would be no point as they have now answered.

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no need to send copy of previous letter but you do refer to it. Do send another schedule and update it with any new charges put on your account since the first letter.

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hmm...when i had this issue i was told to still wait cos it would look better if it went to court. i would appear more reasonable having stuck to my deadlines. if u can send it now then all the better

Kaz :)

 

 

HSBC

claiming £2749 (£3400 with court cost & 8%)

mcol acknowledge 25/09/06

DG requested breakdown 5/10/06

Breakdown sent to DG 12/10/06

 

Yes Car Credit/Direct Auto Finance

CCA request sent 18/10/06

 

Whilst my aim is to be helpful, its reasonable to assume I am not a professional and am (dare I say) not always right. Seek professional help if in doubt

:-D

 

:lol: If i have intentionally or accidently said something of relevance or use to you, please click the scales:lol:

 

"A bank is a place where they lend you an umbrella in fair weather and ask for it back when it begins to rain". - Robert Frost

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hmm...when i had this issue i was told to still wait cos it would look better if it went to court. i would appear more reasonable having stuck to my deadlines. if u can send it now without seeming to be unreasonable then all the better

Kaz :)

 

 

HSBC

claiming £2749 (£3400 with court cost & 8%)

mcol acknowledge 25/09/06

DG requested breakdown 5/10/06

Breakdown sent to DG 12/10/06

 

Yes Car Credit/Direct Auto Finance

CCA request sent 18/10/06

 

Whilst my aim is to be helpful, its reasonable to assume I am not a professional and am (dare I say) not always right. Seek professional help if in doubt

:-D

 

:lol: If i have intentionally or accidently said something of relevance or use to you, please click the scales:lol:

 

"A bank is a place where they lend you an umbrella in fair weather and ask for it back when it begins to rain". - Robert Frost

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The deadlines are there to show you gave enough time for them to reply or deal with your complaint if they've ignored you. Once they have replied you can move on to your next course of action without worrying that they haven't had enough time.

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yeah that was my thinking at the time too lol. they say its their "final response" so it makes sense that u can move on. good luck vicmar!

Kaz :)

 

 

HSBC

claiming £2749 (£3400 with court cost & 8%)

mcol acknowledge 25/09/06

DG requested breakdown 5/10/06

Breakdown sent to DG 12/10/06

 

Yes Car Credit/Direct Auto Finance

CCA request sent 18/10/06

 

Whilst my aim is to be helpful, its reasonable to assume I am not a professional and am (dare I say) not always right. Seek professional help if in doubt

:-D

 

:lol: If i have intentionally or accidently said something of relevance or use to you, please click the scales:lol:

 

"A bank is a place where they lend you an umbrella in fair weather and ask for it back when it begins to rain". - Robert Frost

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well if i post it tomorrow it will next week probably when they receive it and take action on it ???

__________________________________

HSBC Full offer accepted!!£3613.39 :D

(Payment paid into bank 29/01/07)!!

_____________________

A & L offer recived in full

account threat of closure

reported to FOS 5/04/07

_____________________

Mint offer accepted in full

_____________________

Studio Pre lim sent 05/04/07

_________________

MBNA SAR sent

_______________________

Awaiting SAR doc from Creation finance

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Did you send the letters to the Leeds office. Just reading through all these threads it seems to me that if you write there you get a much quicker response than to Canada Square. Im going to send LBA to Leeds. Im so impatient, cant wait to sock it to em!

HSBC 1st preliminary letter £3692 10.10.06 LBA sent 24.10.06

HSBC 1st Preliminary Letter £3280 10.10.06 LBA sent 24.10.06

Capital 1 SADR 11.10.006

Halifax Visa SADR 11.10.06

CITI SADR 12.10.06

HSBC Gold card SADR 23.10.06

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no i wrote to by local banking branch but i will send my LBA to the address they have directed me to :o

__________________________________

HSBC Full offer accepted!!£3613.39 :D

(Payment paid into bank 29/01/07)!!

_____________________

A & L offer recived in full

account threat of closure

reported to FOS 5/04/07

_____________________

Mint offer accepted in full

_____________________

Studio Pre lim sent 05/04/07

_________________

MBNA SAR sent

_______________________

Awaiting SAR doc from Creation finance

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sorry vicmar i don't understand what you are asking

 

if i posted it yesterday , they will recieve it saturday/monday which will be the same as waiting 14 calander days which ends monday!!;)

__________________________________

HSBC Full offer accepted!!£3613.39 :D

(Payment paid into bank 29/01/07)!!

_____________________

A & L offer recived in full

account threat of closure

reported to FOS 5/04/07

_____________________

Mint offer accepted in full

_____________________

Studio Pre lim sent 05/04/07

_________________

MBNA SAR sent

_______________________

Awaiting SAR doc from Creation finance

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