UKCPS parking ticket

[sl1146]

I wish I had found this site a couple of weeks ago. Mug that I am I actually paid my parking ticket issued by UKCPS, and then sent in an appeal (the ticket suggested that I could appeal but if I paid then at least this would stop charges building up whilst it was being considered - I know, I know .... having read some of the threads I was a fool.

 

One of the things I was very unhappy with was that my 11 year old son was in the car whilst I had nipped into the shop. I know they wouldn't accept this instead of getting a ticket, but does anyone think that I could object to them having taken pictures of the vehicle whilst he was in there? I thought I could maybe complain about their taking photographs of minors (you can see him on the pictures although not too clearly). He was also quite scared and unsure about why their was some guy snapping shots of him - compensation material????

 

Or did I say goodbye to my £75 cheque when I foolishly sent it, and might as well forget about any appeal or complaint? Do they even have any form of complaints procedure?

 

Any advice much appreciated

Edited November 21, 2008 by sl1146
didn't read right

[peternet]

Interesting case this but I feel the poster has not explained the full facts. She admits to parking in a disabled bay without a permit whilst collecting her disabled child from another car at the other end of the car park in another disabled bay. So she was clearly not following the terms for parking in a disabled bay. The pictures do not identify the child and show only his upper left torso with a book in his hand. I fail to understand why she needed to park so far away from the other vehicle if a transfer of a disabled child was taking place. If that was the aim of being in the car park as she claims to us then why didnt she arrange to park adjacent to the other vehicle in one of the many empty normal spaces available at that time - as our images indicate. However enough of the facts.

[maroondevo52]

Thread moved.

[kiptower]

must be a quite day friday to "harass people on the phone", and came on here

 

there are "NO LEGAL BLUE BADGE BAYS" in private car parks in the first place

Edited November 21, 2008 by jonni2bad

[lamma]

interesting post re the images. care to point us at the DPA registration for the CCTV ? is the car park owner paying the correct business rate for the car park ? anyway enough of the law for now.

[sl1146]

I had not been aware that the disabled bays in private car parks were not legal - and the fact of it is that I do have a disabled child who has a Blue Badge - unfortunately this was with his father, and I was meeting both of them (and collecting the blue badge at the car park whilst I was shopping). I'm no longer disputing the disabled badge issue as it's not getting me anywhere (I've foolishly already payed the ticket), but I am concerned about the issue re. photographing the car whilst my child is in it. The photographs they sent me display part of his face (behind the driver head rest) and most of his torso - and how do I know there weren't more? The point though is surely that the pictures should never have been taken anyway whilst the child was in the car. I consider this to be malpractice on the part of the company - having read more of the related threads this now doesn't surprise me from this organisation.

[sl1146]

interesting post re the images. care to point us at the DPA registration for the CCTV ? is the car park owner paying the correct business rate for the car park ? anyway enough of the law for now.

It wasn't CCTV but a man with a camera.

[lamma]

as they will have uploaded the pics to a computer system I would make an SAC request under the DPA then and I would check they are paying the correct business rate for the car park as it is being used to generate revenue. I am sure the council would like to up the charges. start here 2005 Rating List - Homepage

[peternet]

Some of the general misleading stuff as usual going on here - not a pay car park - a retail park with disabled bay. As usual with private car parks it is a contractual issue with specific contractual terms for parking in the disabled bays.

[Al27]

Ignore Peternet.EDIT . How do you sleep at night buddy?

 

As for your £75, wave goodbye to it I'm afraid. You'll know now for future.

Edited November 21, 2008 by freakyleaky
Removed inappropriate comment. PLEASE KEEP IT CLEAN.

[sl1146]

Peter (aka UKPS office manager)

As already stated - I am no longer pursuing the disabled badge element - I naively appealed as a mother of a disabled child to your understanding in respect of his needs (and you have a copy of his badge so you know this to be the case).

What I am most concerned about is the moral and ethical implications of a uniformed officer taking photographs of a private car containing a child. You have still to address this issue - whether the pictures are identifiable or not this is clearly bad practice.

[peternet]

These issues have been addressed in private correspondence to you. May I suggest there are issues around leaving a child alone in a parked car in a busy car park.

[kiptower]

issue leaving a child in the car, what the hell has it got to do with him

[sl1146]

A bright 11 year old who travels independently to school and back? No, you're not going to intimidate me about that. If the officer genuinely did have concerns surely instead of taking photographs he should have waited for my return (only a couple of minutes) in order to ensure his safety????? The issue of taking the pictures is being avoided and attempting to be deflected.

 

Just as UKCPS seem quite dogged in pursuing people for their money, since I unfortunately already paid up and don't seem to have much chance of getting my money back, I am equally determined to at least give them a hard time. I have already written to the BPA, the DVLA, the Huddersfield Examiner, and my MP. I hope that at least some of these people give UKCPS the hassle they deserve. Oh yes, I hadn't thought about Kirklees Council - I'll get onto that now.

[jonni2bad]

2 posts removed.

 

Please show some sense, offer advice on what you believe to be the evidence put forward, and not get carried away with very wild and disturbing allegations - it has no place on this site.

[pin1onu]

These issues have been addressed in private correspondence to you. May I suggest there are issues around leaving a child alone in a parked car in a busy car park.

It is a common misconception that children have to be in the care of an adult every second of the day.

 

For the record there is no law that says that a child has to be with you every second of the day.

 

I'd suggest you check out the laws regarding children before you come on these forums making any sort of insinuation.

 

Please crawl back under your bridge Mr Troll.

[neil24103]

Some of the general misleading stuff as usual going on here - not a pay car park - a retail park with disabled bay. As usual with private car parks it is a contractual issue with specific contractual terms for parking in the disabled bays.

i agree there is no way to enforce parking in disable bays in a private car park.they are there only to help the disabled.should anyone get a ticket in one of these private car parks it is unenforceable. no matter how many pic.s they take

[Al27]

Or did I say goodbye to my £75 cheque when I foolishly sent it, and might as well forget about any appeal or complaint? Do they even have any form of complaints procedure?

 

If they haven't cashed it CANCEL IT.

 

These issues have been addressed in private correspondence to you. May I suggest there are issues around leaving a child alone in a parked car in a busy car park.

 

I advise that you do not communicate with Peter, either through email or the board's messaging system.

[Shovel]

These issues have been addressed in private correspondence to you. May I suggest there are issues around leaving a child alone in a parked car in a busy car park.

 

May I suggest, peter, that there are issues of professionalism attached to arguing the toss over one of your toy "parking tickets" on an internet forum.

Edited November 22, 2008 by MARTIN3030

[MARTIN3030]

Lets keep personal comments out of this please-site team are watching and offending remarks will be edited.

[sl1146]

I advise that you do not communicate with Peter, either through email or the board's messaging system.

 

I think you are right, and appreciate the advice and support from people. The company are clearly not at all professional, and the fact that the office manager communicates in such an unprofessional manner reinforces the 'cowboy' status of the outfit. I appreciate that the site managers have had to intervene and understand that personal comments cannot be posted - however, the guy was trying to insinuate re. issues around me leaving an 11year old alone in the car for a couple of minutes - and I think he really does aggravate people intentionally in order to get a response. It does seem to be more than just a job for him, he obviously enjoys the dispute, carrying it on way beyond the limits of the office.

 

Well, I've learnt a lesson. I won't pursue the company any further - it's pointless, but I did gain some satisfaction from writing a few letters of complaint, and I won't make the same mistake again.