Martin3030 v Barclays business LIMITATION WON-now for the fun.

[kiptower]

good luck today Martin ( now PC running faster ooops, )

 

G.

[MARTIN3030]

Just about to leave.

As prepared as can be....with 19kg of paperwork in tow.

Janet is meeting me in Lpool so will not be alone with Barclay boy

 

 

Great job you did with PC.....Lets hope I can do a good job today

[tumble]

Good look Martin x

[Beck1968]

Good Luck !!!!

[andrew1]

We are all sitting willing you on Martin, you deserve a result - good luck matey..

[Rhia]

Jeepers this date has crept up on us. Martin you;ll be there and back again before you read this but awaiting your result. Best of best wishes.

[MARTIN3030]

Ok just back.I am limited to what I can say-for reasons which I hope I can expand on later.

The position is this....the hearing was scheduled for 1 hour I expressed my concern for this from the start.Judge agreed to hear me out and decide if I had any case.

Anyway after hearing me out for over 2 hours he came to the conclusion that the arguements I was putting forward were valid ones and had validity outside Smiths ruling.

I supported everything I put forward with case law and also back up documents.

I think what threw the defence was a number of points that had not been used before -and so these were Ace cards so to speak.

After 5 hours the Judge decided there was not enough time to hear the case out in full.

A number of orders have been made to both sides.

I cant disclose details of those at this point.

What I will say however is that I am very happy with the day.

Please understand that I cannot be more specific-for a number of reasons.

Thank you to all those who are supporting.

[Beck1968]

as long as Martin is happy............;-);-);-);-)

[andrew1]

Sounds like the Martin we've all gotten to know - brilliant Martin..if you kept a Judge listening for 2 hrs you've been doing something right. well done.

[photoman]

Sounds like the Martin we've all gotten to know - brilliant Martin..if you kept a Judge listening for 2 hrs you've been doing something right. well done.

 

Probably only kept the judges attention 'cos he thought there were 19kg of Semtex in his case !!

[Rhia]

Good work Martin. I know you will reveal all when you know it won't prejudice anything - it's hell waiting to know though.

 

I am attempting to claim back business charges from NatWest way back in 1988/92. Have ALL statements. LOL! Please visit my thread and see if you can add any advice.

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/business-claims-bank-charges/206046-rhias-attempt-1990s-charges.html

Edited July 27, 2009 by Rhia
Add CAG link

[MARTIN3030]

Yes I saw as you know Rhia.

Hopefully CAG can give you some directions I like others who I know you are aware of will be happy to help.

[Meldrew]

Martin, what's the latest - got a result yet, or still waiting for Sharkleys to get its act together?

 

About costs,

Re: your costs.

 

From going to court with Tiglet, may I suggest (in case you haven't done so) that you detail the time spent working on this in 10 0r 15 mns time "slices"? The judge in Tig's case felt that she couldn't have spent as many hours as she said working on her case, and I think that is she had it diarised as it happened, he might have been able to get a better picture of how much time a LIP actually spends on those cases. Just a thought.

Yep I would use a spreadsheet and itemise it.

Pretty much the same sort of thing as used in Wasted costs schedule-Ive done a couple of them and had no probs.

I wouldn't presume to tell you how to present costs, as I gather from your posts that you must have done it umpteen times before, but I find it useful to transfer spreadsheet data to the various categories on form N260 (Statement of Costs for summary assessment, which you can fill in on-line for neatness & legibilty). That way the judge perhaps wouldn't raise his eyebrows at 10 hrs for this, 14 hrs for that, 6 hrs for the other, whereas he might at a claim for just a lump of 30 hrs (ref.Bookworm's post quoted). Also, judges seem to like you to use proper court forms. I would attach the spreadsheet headed up "Bill of Costs" & the case ref.at the top. A "notes" column on the spreadsheet is useful to explain why something took such a long time, for example.

 

For those who might not know, a LiP can charge £9.25/hr for time spent on their case. For details see CPR 48.6 & PD 52.1. Car travel is 40p/mile; parking, miscellaneous expenses (postage, copying etc) and public transport at "reasonable" cost.

[MARTIN3030]

Thank you.

Yes costs have escalated on both sides during the course of the last 29 months.

Their last submission was just short of 2.4k and I expect this to rise.

In all 6 hearings costs have been reserved.

 

I am still not in a position to go into details,and anticipate there is yet some way to go.I think it will be around 6 or 7 weeks before I am properly able to evaluate the results of my efforts.

 

Neverthless I remain quietly confident,and determined to see this through and you can be certain their actions and tacs that have been much in evidence in many cases,have not had the desired effect for them in mine.

[yourbank]

Any updates on this one yet Martin ?

[MARTIN3030]

Fraid not.

I may be able to give something new in 2 weeks-until then I am still in the dark myself.

To be honest I have no idea on what will follow-Barclays are giving nothing away.which is what I expected I suppose.

[TINK660]

Subbing

[MARTIN3030]

Couple of days now then I can maybe say more.

[yourbank]

nudge

[MARTIN3030]

Yes ...I know people are eager to know more.

Lets just say that there is an air of unpredictability....which has again changed the goalposts...............