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Right peeps, I'm back. I didn't get the costs. BUT it was a really positive experience and I'm so glad I went, so all is not lost.

 

There was a young and friendly guy representing Barclays, and he was already there when we arrived. He suggested we have a quick chat in one of the consulation rooms. He had never seen my bundle, and wanted to clarify that we were only arguing about costs. He was very impressed with my bundle and asked me if I was in the legal profession (LMAO!!) I was like noooo!

 

Anyway we were called into the court room and a lovely smiley judge was waiting for us (kind-of bearded Dennis Sutherland). As soon as we sat down he said 'finally, a bank claim that has come before me'. The Barclays guy soon deflated his excitement by nervously (he was as bad as me!) explaining that they were prepared to settle the claim in full except for costs. He gave his arguments for the reasons why costs shouldn't be allowed, to which the judge then looked at me and asked 'to which your arguments are?'

 

I explained as best as I could as said in my opinion the banks had never intended to take this to court, unreasonable behaviour and an abuse of the court process etc. I didn't say very much, in fact I forgot to mention Mullen V Hackney and the Lincoln Abuse order, but I think the judge understood where I was coming from, and thanked me when I was finished.

 

After that he was the one who spoke the most, basically saying that rules for costs in small claims are quite clear and that the 'unreasonable' argument is very wide. He looked at my schedule of charges and because most of them were pre-6yrs he said Barclays made the right 'commercial' decision, albeit late to settle in full. He did mention that had this claim got to court, Barclays would have had sound arguments for the limitations etc. He also mentioned the penalty v service argument. Finally he finished to say that whilst I understand your frustration of them settling days before court, in claim after claim after claim, on this occasion he wasn't prepared to stretch to allow costs, because technically Barclays had done nothing wrong...even though it may seem like it.

 

However I think that because my claim was pre-6yrs, and CI the judge did make a sound and fair decision, and I would say that in my opinion the same WOULDN'T apply to anyone else who may wish to try for costs, because I had already successfully done this so this got a bee in Barclays bonnet.

 

The judge concluded with a stay order in which he advised Barclays to cough up the claim settlement figure within 14 days. He added, smiling to me, that should this not happen, you can re-apply for this hearing, and glanced across to the other guy saying somehow I don't think they will let that happen though. The Barclays dude said the cheque is in the post, we thanked each other and he left.

 

As I was leaving the judge smiled again and said I was really hoping that this would be the first bank claim I could hear, but that's not going to happen. We said thanks, and left.

 

In the lift the Barclays guy confirmed that a cheque for settlement should be with me within the next day or so.

 

SO to sum up, whilst I didn't get costs on this occasion, this trip to the court taught me a lot...mainly that it's not as scary a place and situation as it looks and that the judges are really on our side. He didn't make me feel inadequate or stupid, or as if I shouldn't have wasted his time. He understood my reasons, but ruled the costs out on this occasion, which is fair enough.

Crash

 

 

 

 

DAY 1: 12/09 - S A R to British Gas

DAY 45: 27/10 - Data Non-Compliance sent off

DAY 67: 18/11 - N1 Deemed served

DAY 114: 03/01 - Judgment served £60 cheque rec'd; Prelim sent for overpayment refund of £393.06

24 Days: E2Save Settled in full £70

59 Days: Barclaycard claim Settled in full £134.39

162 Days: Halifax Settled in full £1543.80

179 Days: Barclays1 Settled in full £2450.45 + £447.02 in costs

254 Days: Barclays 2 Settled in full £1450.91

 

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There, what did i tell you, you ARE a "Hero" I think you are a very brave person, you did us all a big favour by testing the waters and came out on top. Non of us will have any doubts about claiming what is rightfully ours any more,because you have done it and gone the distance and come out smelling of roses. and you've cleared up a few little pointers along the way, such as what the judges will acept and what they will frown upon. So again VERY WELL DONE Crash, i'm really pleased for you.

B.T.

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Well done, Hun, Again !!! Brilliant work and well played. As Bill k said to Bong. Next time you fight a bank, I'll hold your coat and say ' Thats my mate that Crash you know'

 

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Haha, thanks Lex, I am blushing now!!

Crash

 

 

 

 

DAY 1: 12/09 - S A R to British Gas

DAY 45: 27/10 - Data Non-Compliance sent off

DAY 67: 18/11 - N1 Deemed served

DAY 114: 03/01 - Judgment served £60 cheque rec'd; Prelim sent for overpayment refund of £393.06

24 Days: E2Save Settled in full £70

59 Days: Barclaycard claim Settled in full £134.39

162 Days: Halifax Settled in full £1543.80

179 Days: Barclays1 Settled in full £2450.45 + £447.02 in costs

254 Days: Barclays 2 Settled in full £1450.91

 

Advice & opinions offered are personal, and are offered informally, without prejudice & without liability. Should you be in any doubt, you are advised to seek the opinion of a qualified professional.

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and let it be noted that another claim for full on contractual interest at the unauthorised rate has been settled in full before the court date

 

I really do think people should claim it routinely

 

which ones that then? and which bank?

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Cheque for £1450.91 arrived this morning in an unmarked envelope, with no letter attached. They cut it very fine, as had I not received it by tomorrow, I'd be faxing the judge about their disrespectful attitude!

 

So this one is also settled in full (except costs), including C.I., pre-6 yr charges, daily interest etc.

 

Thank you all once again for your support and encouragement.

Crash

 

 

 

 

DAY 1: 12/09 - S A R to British Gas

DAY 45: 27/10 - Data Non-Compliance sent off

DAY 67: 18/11 - N1 Deemed served

DAY 114: 03/01 - Judgment served £60 cheque rec'd; Prelim sent for overpayment refund of £393.06

24 Days: E2Save Settled in full £70

59 Days: Barclaycard claim Settled in full £134.39

162 Days: Halifax Settled in full £1543.80

179 Days: Barclays1 Settled in full £2450.45 + £447.02 in costs

254 Days: Barclays 2 Settled in full £1450.91

 

Advice & opinions offered are personal, and are offered informally, without prejudice & without liability. Should you be in any doubt, you are advised to seek the opinion of a qualified professional.

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