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Evri lost a parcel worth £100, sold thru eBay/packlink - Scotland small claims / simple procedure query


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Hi there

 

I've read through the forum and I have what seems like the same issue as many of the other posters. I sold a watch on eBay for around £104.75, with delivery costing £3.93, sold by Packlink, due for delivery by Evri. No additional insurance was paid for. This was dropped off at an evri parcelshop on the 13th March, collected by evri from the parcelshop on the 13th March, but no updates have been provided since. The postage paid for was for 1 day and the recipient a UK address.

 

On the 20th, I got in touch with evri who have since conducted a search of their depot, to no avail. The evri rep has been careful to avoid saying that it has been lost, instead refering to it as "potentially lost in our network".

In any case, they suggested I seek the shipper regarding a replacement or refund. I'm aware that as packlink are based in Spain it would be more difficult to pursue them.

 

I have drafted a letter of claim and a particulars of claim based on those attached to a similar post: https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/455445-evri-lost-2-parcels-worth-approx-£300-and-£280-sold-through-ebaypacklink/

 

 

I do have a query regarding whether all of the above is moot, as I am based in Scotland and I'm aware that there is a separate small claims court in Scotland. Furthermore, since 2016, for claims of less than £5000, they should be directed to the simple procedure (https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/taking-action/small-claims).

 

Pasting this here for my future reference:

Protocol seems to be:

Formal complaint

Evri will ignore or redirect to Packlink

I send a letter of claim giving 14 days

They ignore

MoneyClaim online

They acknowledge and file defense

Wait for DQ and agree to mediation

During mediation use Rights of Third Parties Act 1999 and do not settle for lowball offers

Things may drag out but they will settle before court

 

 

 

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Thanks for the tip, dx.

So in this case I suppose the order of process would be more like the below?

 

  • Formal complaint
  • Evri will ignore or redirect to Packlink
  • I send a letter of claim giving 14 days
  • They will likely ignore
  • Raise a simple procedure claiming cost £104.75, delivery £3.93 and £19 simple procedure fee
  • They acknowledge and file defense
  • ???
  • Refer to Contract (Third Party Rights) (Scotland) Act 2017
  • Don't settle for lowball offers
  • Things may drag out but they will settle before court

 

Evri have in the last few minutes updated me and deemed the parcel unaccounted for, with no indication that they will do anything more. So I suppose at this point I can consider it definitively lost and start proceedings.

 

I'm yet to contact Packlink at all, would you suggest doing so before raising the formal complaint?

 

Would appreciate any help you have based on your experience of Audioboxer's thread. I'm not too sure what occurs during the ??? step. Hopefully since its just Packlink and Evri it is a little less complex.

 

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Hi again,

 

I see that the audioboxer thread has come to a close as Packlink have offered a 'goodwill' gesture. 

I am about to send the letter of claim to Evri and have attached it here. The highlighted part I am not sure of, as the insurance is offered by Packlink rather than Evri.

 

Any advice you can offer before sending this off would be appreciated.

Do you think that I should contact Packlink prior to sending this, as I have yet to do so?

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