Parking Control Management Charge for car not driven by keeper

[lordloz]

So I know the advice is not to contact these jokers however, my wife had a car registered in her name we passed onto my sister who was resident in an apartment block.

The letting agent I believe failed to give her a permit to display or she didn't put it on or somesuch nonsense back in February 2019. The photos even show it on there.

 

Now, while I wouldn't have bothered until the note to claim this is not my problem as such but is my problem. 

 

I informed them who was the driver, e.g. the resident who paid rent for that building and car space, all has been quiet until last week when I got this message to which I replied it's nothing to do with me - I added in that any further communication I have to deal with if they replied would incur an invoice for my time dealing with this matter 

 

Seeing as they aren't the police I don't believe I need to provide evidence I wasn't the driver either for their speculative invoice.

-bearing in mind this address they are talking about is in Hampshire while I live  about120 miles away in Devon and could not have been there at the time.

 

As I said normally I'd ignore it until notice to claim but as it's being wrongly attributed to me I'm a bit unsure how to deal/proceed address this further.

 

Any guidance gratefully received - I ain't paying for this, if it goes anywhere near court my sister is paying for it!!!! 

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email correspondence as follows

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Message1 - (after speculative postal invoice received)

 

10/03/2019

-----Your Message----- 
1)
I was not the driver my sister-in-law ************ was as is using my old car - is insured for it and is resident at *************** and has a parking permit for her flat there.

Therefore, I am not personally liable for any parking invoice you send to me - I live in Devon 2 hours from that address and was in Devon at the time some 120 miles away.

2)
On receipt of your notice I confirmed with my sister-in-law that she has a permit for that area for the year and valid and displayed one. I had no such item on my car when I had it so this must be one of your permits.
This can be seen in the top left hand side of the windscreen. I have circled your original diagram as your staff for some reason have not seen this.

I await your early reply. Any correspondence will also be forwarded onto Ms. ****************** regardless as the driver and resident.

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Message 1 reply 

 

Dear MRS ************************

This is an e-mail from Parking Control Management UK Ltd. Please do not reply to this e-mail.

Your challenge has been received and allocated to your case. Please note that your case will remain on hold until a decision has been made. Do not make payment until you have received a response to your challenge as payment will deem the case to be closed.

Parking Charge Notice : PC*************

This message has been generated automatically. Please do not reply.

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Message 2

22/08/22

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Dear Miss *********** (now writing to my sister as you can see)

 

We write further to our previous letter (attached) and note we have not received a response or payment of the full Amount Due/ Debt.

 

Our client wishes to resolve this matter amicably and without the need for costly Court proceedings.

 

Should you be in difficulty in making full payment then it may be possible for a payment plan to be agreed with you. We would also like to remind you of your ability to seek advice from one of the organisations listed in our letter should you need to.

 

We invite you to make payment within the next 7 days. Our team is ready to try to work with you to resolve this matter without the need for Court proceedings and it is important you contact us upon receipt of this email.

 

Please do not reply to this message. This email was sent from an unmonitored mailbox.

 

Yours sincerely

Gladstones Solicitors Limited

 

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Message 2 Reply

To Gladstones,

 

I already informed you that Ms **************** was the driver and owner of the car you are talking about in March 2019 .

 

No letter was attached to your email and should not be addressed to me anyway.

 

Do not send me any more emails on this matter you should refer this directly to Ms.********************

 

Any further communication that I have to deal with on this matter will result in an invoice for my time being issued to you.

 

Replying further to me means you are happy to accept and incur those costs.

 

 

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Message 3

 

Dear LordLoz

 

Thank you for your correspondence.

 

We write in relation to a parking charge issued on 22/02/2019 at **********      ************ address here.........

 

The parking charge was issued as vehicle registration #########  parked without clearly displaying a valid PCM UK Ltd permit. As this term was breached the charge was issued correctly.

 

While you allege that you are not the owner or driver of the vehicle you have provided no evidence to affirm this stance. Schedule 4 (1) of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 which states 'The creditor has the right to recover any unpaid parking charges from the keeper of the vehicle'.

The vehicle was found parked on the Relevant Land not in accordance with the signs and the charge remained unpaid, therefore our Client had a ‘reasonable cause’ to apply to the DVLA for the Registered Keeper.

This in turn provided your details. As you were the registered keeper, at the time of contravention, our client is able to pursue you for the full outstanding amount of £170.

 

We therefore invite you to make payment in full on or before the 20^th September 2022 to avoid further action being taken against you.

 

Payment can be made via bank transfer to the account detailed as follows:

 

Gladstones Solicitors Ltd

 

Payment can be made via bank transfer to the account detailed as follows:

 

Gladstones Solicitors Ltd

Barclays Bank

Account Number: 33028712

Sort Code: 20-24-09

Reference: 104087.18750

Amount Due: £170.00

 

Alternatively, you can make payment online at www.gladstonessolicitors.co.uk or via the automated payment line 0333 0230 049 quoting reference ###############

 

If you fail to pay the debt within the timeframe specified, we have been instructed to issue Court proceedings without further reference to you which will incur further costs and which will be added to the value of the outstanding debt.

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[FTMDave]

There's very little to say.  You've told them repeatedly you weren't the driver and they've harangued you anyway.

 

Ignore them now unless they send a Letter Before Claim when you can give them both barrels.

[lordloz]

thanks Dave -

 

(I continue to send these onto my sister for information)

 

and If I get anymore I'll send them my own speculative invoice!     

 

 

[dx100uk]

no.

stop following stupid FmOtL rubbish reverse invoicing.

 

supremacy of contract rules anyway.

 

 

[lordloz]

I'm not being entirely serious with reverse invoicing

[dx100uk]

but other might read and think otherwise.....

dx