That's good to know, most of these PPC's turn out to be paper tigers in the end. The only time I came unstuck was at Southend Airport a couple of years back when after much help from you guys on here, I thought I had them beat only to find a ccj had been issued without me knowing how since I didn't receive the court docs. Maybe the letter of claim went missing in the post or something I'm not really sure. Anyways I appreciate all your help and info, you certainly seem very knowledgeable on this. Regards

The only thing I received was the original speculative invoice from the ppc and then letters from the attack-dog debt collectors OK many thanks, I'll get things amended and post it off with proof of postage Regards

All very helpful, useful info folks thanks a lot. Couple of responses to the above from you, yes I thought it was 20 mins but as I was only in there 18 mins I guess it must be 15 mins their allowed waiting time, but it doesn't state anywhere what it is. Maybe I'll swing by there and take a photo of the sign they usually post up at their sites. It sounds like F1RST and a toothless tiger so to speak judging by the lack of cases they've pursued and I'm not moving anytime soon so there'll be no backdoor ccj they can claim an easy victory with. Noted about the appeal DX, I'll come here in all future instances before doing anything and outing myself as keeper etc. Addison Lee does have a parking dept but I've found them to be pretty useless in the past tbh and limited in what they'll do and their knowledge. I think it's better to have the knowledge oneself rather than rely on a dept or whatever to take care of it, knowledge is power and all that. Plus it's been a good while since I fought one of these so my knowledge and experience is very rusty but I'm making notes and will always come to you lot first for advice before contacting the PPC in future. In the meantime I'll post that snotty letter off, kind regards

Ok found the original letter from the PPC that luckily hadn't been thrown out, please find attached Regards 1 Date of the infringement 15/12/2022 2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] 06/01/2023 3 Date received 11/01/2023 4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?] Yes it does 5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Yes 6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] Yes Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up Yes but no longer have them, discarded in error 7 Who is the parking company? F1RST PARKING 8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. 2022-01-06 F1rst Parking PCN - incident date 15-12-22.pdf 2023-01-13 my appeal.pdf

Sorry what's an SAR?

Sorry about the delay was away for a couple of weeks. No I had a clear out of lots of old correspondence related to old PCN's etc plus other documentation that's no longer needed and probably slung it out along with that other stuff. The only correspondence relating to this one is what I still get from the debt collection agency chasing it as above. I did write a snotty letter that I'll stick in the post later though, let me know if this is ok, many thanks St Georges Wharf PCN (2).pdf

Hi folks not been on the site for many months due to thankfully not having any disputes recently. This one here they've been pestering me for a few months now due to overstaying the allowed 20 mins taxi-pickup time outside a block of flats in South London. Just posting to ask if this is still at the ignore stage, as you can see it's headed "letter of claim" but this is not an official court proceeding started by the PPC, rather it's just more badgering with official sounding wording courtesy of the PPC's attack-dog, debt collection agency right? Many thanks in advance S 2023-07-xx DCB(legal) PAPLOC.pdf

Ok understood, I'll send it Monday with proof of postage to both the PPC and the law firm. Kind regards

Something to the effect of: "Please desist from contacting me regarding this speculative invoice, otherwise I'll see you in the small claims court - in which case please bring a cheque book as I'll be seeking full costs recovery through a recovery order. Until then I'll refer you to Arkell v Pressdram, act on that!" Good enough, to the point etc? I don't need to put in anything about being a cab driver etc trying to pick someone up or anything? Regards

Ok understood, I'll look through those examples on here and knock something up for your approval regards

I thought there was a formal procedure once it got to LBC stage, no?

LBC received as attached: 20220918_100108.pdf

Right I've been out of the loop a while and tend to forget the debt collectors are not the ones who issued the charge or the ones who have to pursue any legal proceedings related to it. I conflate the two entities, when in reality, they're separate

ok thanks for now

latest correspondence from Smart just arrived, they sound quite determined to pursue the charge and go to court if necessary. Could be all just bluster of course, anything to recommend or just ignore and await LBC? Regards Smart.pdf